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Old 12-02-2010, 09:47 AM   #16
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When Gilbert pulled a gun on his teammate.

And you think they could have voided it easily? uh....no......
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:52 AM   #17
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And you think they could have voided it easily? uh....no......


uh..... yes..... they were even granted clearance to do it by the NBA.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:55 AM   #18
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So they have nobody else who can get numbers? So how did they win 53 games last year?

Sorry for being very vague. Its not that no one else could get the numbers that he produces but I think he is the best option offensively in that team.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:58 AM   #19
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uh..... yes..... they were even granted clearance to do it by the NBA.

I don't think that was true, and even if it was, it would never happen. The Players Union would go ballistic. It wouldn't happen.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:00 AM   #20
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120,000,000? lol
First thing to come to mind. He is the very definition of overpayed
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:05 AM   #21
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I don't think that was true, and even if it was, it would never happen. The Players Union would go ballistic. It wouldn't happen.

Stern said the Wizards could follow thru with voiding his contract. But the chances of the Wizards walkin away with voiding Gilbert contract would be extremely difficult. Fans thinking Wizards could have just easily voided his contract and be done with it are misinformed and mistaken. There is a reason Washington didnt go down this path. Because they knew it wouldnt be easy and a big risk.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:15 AM   #22
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:18 AM   #23
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Stern said the Wizards could follow thru with voiding his contract. But the chances of the Wizards walkin away with voiding Gilbert contract would be extremely difficult. Fans thinking Wizards could have just easily voided his contract and be done with it are misinformed and mistaken. There is a reason Washington didnt go down this path. Because they knew it wouldnt be easy and a big risk.


I don't see how it would be that much of a risk. Worst Case scenario is the player's union tries to make a stink about it, but what would they really say?

"Well he did pull on a gun on his teammate... But....."


Why would it be such a risk exactly? Inform me. Enlighten me. Keep in mind the wizards could have saved tens of millions voiding it. How much was the risk? More than the remainder of the K?
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:18 AM   #24
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Sorry for being very vague. Its not that no one else could get the numbers that he produces but I think he is the best option offensively in that team.


The Hawks were 3rd in the league in offensive efficiency last year with JJ as their number 1 option.

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/year/2010

So what is your point?
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:05 AM   #25
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Joe Johnson is at least a perennial All-Star, just not an elite player...as evidenced by his performances in the playoffs.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:17 PM   #26
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I still can't beleive the Wizards didn't void Gilbert's contract when they had the chance

Hawks were in a tough place though. Either pay him the max or lose him. I'm not saying it was the best decision, but I can understand why they did it.

They should have let him go for picks and rebuild. How are the Hawks getting anywhere in the next 5 years with what they have?
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:20 PM   #27
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They should have let him go for picks and rebuild. How are the Hawks getting anywhere in the next 5 years with what they have?
You guys should really not be so redundant.

How exactly do you rebuild without any cap room?
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:07 PM   #28
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I don't see how it would be that much of a risk. Worst Case scenario is the player's union tries to make a stink about it, but what would they really say?

"Well he did pull on a gun on his teammate... But....."


Why would it be such a risk exactly? Inform me. Enlighten me. Keep in mind the wizards could have saved tens of millions voiding it. How much was the risk? More than the remainder of the K?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/comme...=munson/100121

Good read.

Its not as simple as Wizards saying "We void your contract" and poof its gone.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:18 PM   #29
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/comme...=munson/100121

Good read.

Its not as simple as Wizards saying "We void your contract" and poof its gone.
Yep.

In addition, it creates a bad precedent for your organization. How many players will want to sign with the Wizards knowing that they want to void at the drop of a hat?

Now, compare that to how many will want to sign with the Wizards knowing that they stand by their players no matter what and honor the agreements they've made.

Voiding the contract would have hurt the organization in the long run. He's still a tradeable asset at this point (though, maybe not the most valuable one ever).
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:40 PM   #30
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while Joe Jo wasn't worth the biggest contract in the league, he does put up numbers comparable to Kobe and he is still young.

killin my fantasy team as a 2nd rounder right now. FML.
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