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Old 12-06-2010, 12:51 AM   #16
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I don't see how RHCP is mentioned.

Am I missing somthing?

They had great glimpses of funk, which is a spin-off of traditional soul and/or R&B, which I guess the average person considers "soulful"

Their second-to-latest album, By The Way, displayed IMO the most soul as a a whole that they've been around. it didn't have the hits or anthemic songs we're used to, but had a great, mellow, groove to it.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:51 AM   #17
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Why? They were a straight-up R&B band. The only "rock and roll" they played is what rock borrowed from R&B.


Guitar. Drums. Vocals. Nice Rift.

R&B and Rock have a lot of similarities.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:56 AM   #18
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Guitar. Drums. Vocals. Nice Rift.

R&B and Rock have a lot of similarities.

Rift??

Popular music since 1945 as a whole has had guitar, drums, and vocals. Does that mean that Katie Perry and Sam & Dave should be classified together because they share the same rudimentary elements??

By that logic, Enrique Inglesias and The Allman Brothers are in the same "genre" because they share guitar, drums, and vocals.

While we're at it, lets put the legendary Funk Brothers in the same category as whoever the f*ck does studio work with Justin Bieber. Guitar. Drums. Vocals. Must be the same thing.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:14 AM   #19
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Default Re: Most 'soulful' rock bands?

As per the OP, the answer relies on one's definition of "soulful"

Joe Cocker and the Allman Brothers displayed the most "soul" in a Rock N' Roll context... yet they were respectively an R&B outfit and a blues band.

The real answer would be a rhythm and instrumental section playing straight-rock progressions with a truly soulful lyricist.

The Allmans were too blues-heavy, Sly and the Family Stone were WAY too R&B, Cream was psychedelic and not at all Soul, Chilli Peppers were a punkish funk band, Zeppelin and Aerosmith were bluesish rock bands.

I'd give it to Cocker... particularly the Mad Dogs and Englishman era.
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What about rhe Moody Blues, The Young Rascals and the Velvet Underground?
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:29 AM   #21
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What about rhe Moody Blues, The Young Rascals and the Velvet Underground?

Personally the Moody Blues and Velvet Underground were too prog/experimental/quasi-psychedelic for what I consider Soul.... the Rascals had some definite R&B influences, but in my mind there is a difference between R&B and Soul.
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They had great glimpses of funk, which is a spin-off of traditional soul and/or R&B, which I guess the average person considers "soulful"

Their second-to-latest album, By The Way, displayed IMO the most soul as a a whole that they've been around. it didn't have the hits or anthemic songs we're used to, but had a great, mellow, groove to it.

Just because they were a funk band it doesn't mean that they had 'soul'. Anthony's voice and the guitar didn't necessarily evoke a soulful tone. Even their song 'Under the Bridge' doesn't really hit me with soul.... great song, YES, but not very soulful imo.

When I talk about 'soul' I'm talking about some shit you FEEL. I'm not getting that from them at all.
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:04 AM   #23
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Personally the Moody Blues and Velvet Underground were too prog/experimental/quasi-psychedelic for what I consider Soul.... the Rascals had some definite R&B influences, but in my mind there is a difference between R&B and Soul.

A band/artist can have r&b origins and not be soulful per se. The two aren't exclusive, all we have to do is look at today's r&b for a perfect example of that.

Hell...... Radiohead's Thom Yorke has more soul than most r&b artists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJUV...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NieRx...eature=related

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Old 12-06-2010, 02:06 AM   #24
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The Doobie Brothers

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Old 12-06-2010, 02:19 AM   #25
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Thats definitely in the eye of the beholder. I view the Doobie's as pop-oriented southern classic rock
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:22 AM   #26
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A band/artist can have r&b origins and not be soulful per se. The two aren't exclusive, all we have to do is look at today's r&b for a perfect example of that.

Hell...... Radiohead's Thom Yorke has more soul than most r&b artists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJUV...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NieRx...eature=related

I guess there's a difference in some people's eyes between "soulful" and "soul"

Soulful is synonymous, to me, with Soul music which is a direct tangent from R&B music. Soul is R&B with grit, with punch, with that unmistakable feeling of either pain, love, or a combination of the two.

The musicians in Radiohead may have their soul in their craft, but by no means are they Soul music to me.
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:23 AM   #27
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Just because they were a funk band it doesn't mean that they had 'soul'. Anthony's voice and the guitar didn't necessarily evoke a soulful tone. Even their song 'Under the Bridge' doesn't really hit me with soul.... great song, YES, but not very soulful imo.

When I talk about 'soul' I'm talking about some shit you FEEL. I'm not getting that from them at all.

I would disagree, in that 'Under the Bridge' is one of their most soulful early tracks. Crisp guitar, funky bass, and spirited lyrics, make for a very soulful experience if you ask me.
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:49 AM   #28
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:59 AM   #29
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Rift??

Popular music since 1945 as a whole has had guitar, drums, and vocals. Does that mean that Katie Perry and Sam & Dave should be classified together because they share the same rudimentary elements??

By that logic, Enrique Inglesias and The Allman Brothers are in the same "genre" because they share guitar, drums, and vocals.

While we're at it, lets put the legendary Funk Brothers in the same category as whoever the f*ck does studio work with Justin Bieber. Guitar. Drums. Vocals. Must be the same thing.


I'm not over analyzing like you. E,W,&F did some songs that could be loosely called Rock Music due to the components.

That's what I'm saying. Try to debate that or keep rolling your eyes like a 12 year old girl.

The Isley Brothers was an R&B band, but Voyage to Atlantis had many Rock components including (for lack of a better term because I'm no Rock fan or expert) guitar rifts and solo which usually doesn't occur in R&B.

Maybe I came off wrong. By no means am I calling EW&F a rock band....I went off on a tangent and started listing soul bands that played some rock.

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Old 12-06-2010, 03:30 PM   #30
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i came in here to post the band, but i see i already did.

oh well, here ya go


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