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Old 12-10-2010, 07:35 PM   #106
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when you flatline you are in a hospital being overseen by an actual doctor...

Assuming the stories are legit, then yeah they probably are real doctors. Doesn't rule out an agenda.
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Assuming the stories are legit, then yeah they probably are real doctors. Doesn't rule out an agenda.
IMO being dead after a major car wreck or heart atack or whatever rules out the agenda...

I find it hard to believe that the first thing these people want to do when they wake from their flat line is lie about what they saw...

and then on top of that have all the stories match each other...
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overheard?...there are thousands of them

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is that what happens during anesthesia awareness???
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There also seems to be a link between the cultural and spiritual beliefs where you live. These seem to dictate what is experienced in the NDE or how it is interpreted afterwards
That's a key point right there. Why don't you research anesthesia awareness?
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That's a key point right there. Why don't you research anesthesia awareness?
"or how it was intrepreted" is key...


yeah, some people do come back claiming they saw "Jesus"...however they still saw the same things everyone else did when they describe it...

there are cases of Preists that have had NDEs and quite their teaches right after...



and yeah, I will look into anesthesia awareness tonight...I promise

can't give it good attention right now...
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"or how it was intrepreted" is key...


yeah, some people do come back claiming they saw "Jesus"...however they still saw the same things everyone else did when they describe it...

there are cases of Preists that have had NDEs and quite their teaches right after...



and yeah, I will look into anesthesia awareness tonight...I promise

can't give it good attention right now...
How is a NDE any different from a dream? You see what you have seen your whole life flash before your eyes in a moment of frantic desperation as you flatline. It's not like some dude who has never seen jesus before is going to see him all of a sudden in a NDE. He saw him because he has heard of him before and has seen pictures/ paintings of him and his brain relays this to him during the experience.
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How is a NDE any different from a dream? You see what you have seen your whole life flash before your eyes in a moment of frantic desperation as you flatline. It's not like some dude who has never seen jesus before is going to see him all of a sudden in a NDE. He saw him because he has heard of him before and has seen pictures/ paintings of him and his brain relays this to him during the experience.
they don't see an actual human figure named "Jesus" with a beard and all...it isn't like that...lol

they are very different from dreams, I don't think ANYONE argues that...

that is like asking how was your day yesterday different than a dream?

you KNOW it wasn't a dream...you were there

experiencing something "real" is very different than experiencing a dream...no matter how lucid the dream is...when you wake you have an understanding it was false...
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