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Old 12-17-2010, 11:49 PM   #1
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:50 PM   #2
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I like North Korea, but I prefer to live in Spain.
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:57 PM   #3
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Communists in the United States are retarded.

In America, you can choose your political beliefs.

But in China and North Korea, you're a communist, sorry.

They would probably like to choose something else as well.
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:09 AM   #4
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china is not communist

and being communist is not bad, just unrealistic
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:33 AM   #5
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Communists in the United States are retarded.

In America, you can choose your political beliefs.

But in China and North Korea, you're a communist, sorry.

They would probably like to choose something else as well.

I don't really get how you can choose your political beliefs in one country but not in another. Whatever happens, your life is still abiding to the rules and regulations of the current government in power, and whatever you "Believe" in, doesn't change what's actually happening to you.

And communism isn't a bad idea, but most Americans don't even understand the concept properly and just go with the old view of "EEEEVILL!"
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:37 AM   #6
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I don't really get how you can choose your political beliefs in one country but not in another. Whatever happens, your life is still abiding to the rules and regulations of the current government in power, and whatever you "Believe" in, doesn't change what's actually happening to you.

And communism isn't a bad idea, but most Americans don't even understand the concept properly and just go with the old view of "EEEEVILL!"

I know, that is dumb.

I think Capitalism vs Socialism and Democracy vs Republic are actually rational choices, rather than choosing oppression.
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:47 AM   #7
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And communism isn't a bad idea, but most Americans don't even understand the concept properly and just go with the old view of "EEEEVILL!"
Conceptually, it seems like a great idea. In practice, it has never really worked out all that well. It just does not seem that the human condition is far along enough to avoid power-hungry politicians turning a communist society into a dictatorship with all of the power given to very few.

In a true communist society, everyone would be equal... From the random guy in the street to Fidel Castro running the state. It looks great on paper, but I'm not sure we are capable of really instituting it with success.

The best societies, imo, take a little out of communist policy, a little out of socialism, some out of capitalism and round it out with a true democracy. As we stand today, it seems the countries with a nice mix are the most stable.
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Well, it's to bad that nobody actually knows what communism is, even people who claim to be communist. Real communism isn't humanly possible, what most people call communism is socialism.
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Well, it's to bad that nobody actually knows what communism is, even people who claim to be communist. Real communism isn't humanly possible, what most people call communism is socialism.
Communism is a movement and socialism is an economic system. They are not mutually exclusive. In fact, it would be difficult to have one without the other.

Communism is all about a society without classes and without state oversight. It stresses common ownership and distribution based on needs. That is where the socialism comes in, because it dictates how a society could go about implementing this system.

It isn't that communism is 'not humanly possible,' it is just that humans have yet to do it successfully. Maybe as we evolve beyond our predatory, natural 'power-hungry' impulses, we could achieve it... We are not there yet.
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not possible...
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:40 AM   #11
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Communism is a movement and socialism is an economic system. They are not mutually exclusive. In fact, it would be difficult to have one without the other.

Communism is all about a society without classes and without state oversight. It stresses common ownership and distribution based on needs. That is where the socialism comes in, because it dictates how a society could go about implementing this system.

It isn't that communism is 'not humanly possible,' it is just that humans have yet to do it successfully. Maybe as we evolve beyond our predatory, natural 'power-hungry' impulses, we could achieve it... We are not there yet.
Socialism is one of the steps towards communism, at least under Marxist definition. Socialism is what USSR, China, and technically most of the world are on a certain scale. Communism hasn't existed, and the only example I can think of it in action is biblical.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:45 AM   #12
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Isn't it funny how the whole country "chooses" to believe in democracy? You believe in the system that puts a roof over your head and food in the stomach. Meanwhile you can work your asses off at a meaningless job and take like .0003% of the money used in government spending, and media costs, then come home and watch sports. Nice life.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:01 AM   #13
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Socialism is one of the steps towards communism, at least under Marxist definition. Socialism is what USSR, China, and technically most of the world are on a certain scale. Communism hasn't existed, and the only example I can think of it in action is biblical.
It is difficult to implement a political system perfectly. We are not a true, complete capitalistic society... And, the truth is, absolute capitalism would be as big a disaster (if not worse) than absolute communism. That goes back to my above post about finding a good mix.

To my knowledge, there has never been an example of absolute capitalism in human history either... Same goes for communism... And absolute socialism.
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It is difficult to implement a political system perfectly. We are not a true, complete capitalistic society... And, the truth is, absolute capitalism would be as big a disaster (if not worse) than absolute communism. That goes back to my above post about finding a good mix.

To my knowledge, there has never been an example of absolute capitalism in human history either... Same goes for communism... And absolute socialism.
I know, that's why I said that everyone was socialist on a certain level. Leaving the system completely capitalist is probably closest to late 1800s US where the bottom portion of the population was dirt poor and the top few percent were insanely rich.
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