I've heard this a couple of times this week. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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And LIke I mentioned in that other thread, he didn't 'revolutionize' as much as he 'evolutionized' it.
He didn't create anything new or take anything to the next level. What he did do, was take something that was created before him to the mainstream. He is also a combination of different rappers and producers, but nothing that is next level type of shit.
As a producer, he's good but he didn't do anything revolutionary.
As a rapper he didn't do anything that wasn't done before either.
He followed styles and formulas that were already existent and just add his own slight twist, and it wasn't necessarily that much better (if at all).
I think people confuse his popularity as being revolutionary, which isn't the case at all. I'll agree that he is one of this era's icons, but not revolutionary in the musical sense.
And he aint revolutionary, in the socio-political sense either.
Cause he stated what he stated? then take it back? then cry and complain about it?
Naw.... he aint revolutionary in the musical sense or the socio-political sense.
And LIke I mentioned in that other thread, he didn't 'revolutionize' as much as he 'evolutionized' it.
He didn't create anything new or take anything to the next level. What he did do, was take something that was created before him to the mainstream. He is also a combination of different rappers and producers, but nothing that is next level type of shit.
As a producer, he's good but he didn't do anything revolutionary.
As a rapper he didn't do anything that wasn't done before either.
He followed styles and formulas that were already existent and just add his own slight twist, and it wasn't necessarily that much better (if at all).
I think people confuse his popularity as being revolutionary, which isn't the case at all. I'll agree that he is one of this era's icons, but not revolutionary in the musical sense.
And he aint revolutionary, in the socio-political sense either.
Cause he stated what he stated? then take it back? then cry and complain about it?
Naw.... he aint revolutionary in the musical sense or the socio-political sense.
if this is the case, then you agree that Pac isn't a revolutionist right? because everything he did, somebody else already lay the foundation and cultivated it with better lyrics too.
if this is the case, then you agree that Pac isn't a revolutionist right? because everything he did, somebody else already lay the foundation and cultivated it with better lyrics too.
I somewhat agree.
2Pac was an extension of those before him such as Chuck D, KRS, Bambataa, and others. But what 2pac was more diverse than they ever were.
2pac not only touched on political issues, on social issues, he talked about relationships, about making money, thugging, partying, etc.etc. he also incorporated a formula that others hadn't done as successful before him (if at all).
He was the playa, the thug, the political figure, the every man, etc.etc.
So ehhh.... I kinda sorta agree, but I wouldn't have a hard time accepting him as revolutionary even tho he was certainly more evolutionary.
2Pac was an extension of those before him such as Chuck D, KRS, Bambataa, and others. But what 2pac was more diverse than they ever were.
2pac not only touched on political issues, on social issues, he talked about relationships, about making money, thugging, partying, etc.etc. he also incorporated a formula that others hadn't done as successful before him (if at all).
He was the playa, the thug, the political figure, the every man, etc.etc.
So ehhh.... I kinda sorta agree, but I wouldn't have a hard time accepting him as revolutionary even tho he was certainly more evolutionary.
Its for these very same reasons, that Pac is heralded as one of the greatest of all time. Hip hop, the power of the people, the voice of the streets...the pulse of the human condition, and you had guys like him, that for a moment, had his finger on that....His raps were about the very things most suffered from...and THEN dude goes and gets murdered....It couldnt have been written any better than that if it was a fu*king movie. Poetic almost. The things he touched on, and then to be killed young.
He may have not been the greatest "rapper" of all time, but him as a figurehead to what hip hop is (for the most part)....cannot be denied.
Its for these very same reasons, that Pac is heralded as one of the greatest of all time. Hip hop, the power of the people, the voice of the streets...the pulse of the human condition, and you had guys like him, that for a moment, had his finger on that....His raps were about the very things most suffered from...and THEN dude goes and gets murdered....It couldnt have been written any better than that if it was a fu*king movie. Poetic almost. The things he touched on, and then to be killed young.
He may have not been the greatest "rapper" of all time, but him as a figurehead to what hip hop is (for the most part)....cannot be denied.
Cs
Its for that reason that I can accept when people rank him in the top 10 or higher.
Because Nas has tried to be what 2pac was, but has failed even tho he's the better rapper. 2pac knew how to connect with the majority of the audience, not just an eclectic bunch of heads (mainly purists).
You could be right, but I have a feeling that some of his fans and stans are dead serious.
Everyone knows that Rhymefest wrote Jesus Walks right?
You don't go from a wack rapper that can't get signed even when he KNOWS Dame Dash to a guy that raps EXACTLY like Jay-Z....(I swear Jay Z did him a favor and gave him a verse on the last song of College Dropout).
Last edited by Go Getter : 12-18-2010 at 07:05 AM.
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