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Old 12-18-2010, 07:19 PM   #16
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Default Re: Are rappers like Talib Qweli, Mos Def, and Common too preachy?

Mos is one of the greatest MC's of all time as far as just like prime but music wasn't ever his passion. He always wanted to act, and that came first over music.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:26 PM   #17
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Default Re: Are rappers like Talib Qweli, Mos Def, and Common too preachy?

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Mos is one of the greatest MC's of all time as far as just like prime but music wasn't ever his passion. He always wanted to act, and that came first over music.

i don't think thats true, but i think he just didn't want to grind out album after album, he wanted to do different things like the new danger which people didn't want, they just wanted more stuff like his first two albums.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:46 PM   #18
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I disagree. Comm is definitely on their level.

No he's not. I don't listen to any of them regularly, but I HAVE listened to all of them and Def and Kweli are legitimate rappers with musical ability. Common just simply found a niche audience for his subject matter.

As far as them being too preachy, they are for MY taste, but obviously they're entitled to make music however they see fit. Def and Kweli just don't really have personas that capture my attention when I'm listening to rap. It's not just the subject matter. Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye had 'social impact' music that I love, but it fit more with the type of music they were doing.

When it comes to rap, for me I just prefer more charisma, aggression, personality, and presence than most "conscious" rappers bring. DMX isn't half the lyricist that Talib Kweli is, but I'd rather listen to him. More exciting, more enjoyable.

But obviously other people see it different. Usually those people are gay.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:48 PM   #19
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Default Re: Are rappers like Talib Qweli, Mos Def, and Common too preachy?

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To be fair I never liked Common so maybe let's just end that discussion right there.

You afraid of being wrong, dude? How come you never wanna back your opinions if they meet resistance?
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:52 PM   #20
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You afraid of being wrong, dude? How come you never wanna back your opinions if they meet resistance?

To answer both of your questions: Yes, I'm afraid of being wrong.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:57 PM   #21
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Default Re: Are rappers like Talib Qweli, Mos Def, and Common too preachy?

Maybe because they are so pro black that it is discusting. As a white man I love listening to Mos but it's ridiculous how much of that shit he puts in there, go back to Africa then.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:02 PM   #22
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Default Re: Are rappers like Talib Qweli, Mos Def, and Common too preachy?

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No he's not. I don't listen to any of them regularly, but I HAVE listened to all of them and Def and Kweli are legitimate rappers with musical ability. Common just simply found a niche audience for his subject matter.

As far as them being too preachy, they are for MY taste, but obviously they're entitled to make music however they see fit. Def and Kweli just don't really have personas that capture my attention when I'm listening to rap. It's not just the subject matter. Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye had 'social impact' music that I love, but it fit more with the type of music they were doing.

When it comes to rap, for me I just prefer more charisma, aggression, personality, and presence than most "conscious" rappers bring. DMX isn't half the lyricist that Talib Kweli is, but I'd rather listen to him. More exciting, more enjoyable.

But obviously other people see it different. Usually those people are gay.

of course. incapable of making a quality post, has to end it that way.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:04 PM   #23
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of course. incapable of making a quality post, has to end it that way.


sorry i keeps it real.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:28 PM   #24
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But obviously other people see it different. Usually those people are gay.

Or just have better taste in music.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:37 PM   #25
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I can dig that rappers are trying to offer something other than "I got hoes in different area codes" and "Its all about the benjamins" and the like.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:44 AM   #26
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I can dig that rappers are trying to offer something other than "I got hoes in different area codes" and "Its all about the benjamins" and the like.
Dont diss a classic.

I miss Nate Dogg.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:02 AM   #27
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Default Re: Are rappers like Talib Qweli, Mos Def, and Common too preachy?

common is 100% too preachy. i enjoy his style from way back when, but over the past few years he is nauseating to listen to. i listen to tracks like 'it's your world' and 'love is' and wish someone else was spitting over them. + his sex rhymes?

talib comes across as didactic occasionally but he's actually quite a fun rapper nowadays: he switches up his style, raps with heaps of different people and has entertaining (and obscure) similes. the reason he'll never make it into the mainstream is his voice, which is far more harsh than it was circa black star. that certainly makes him more difficult to listen to for mine.

mos def? objectively i think he probably is, but like kweli his lyrics are just too damn good to care. is a track like 'thieves in the night' a little preachy? who the f*ck cares, it's a classic verse that needed to be written. sometimes the best writing is subtle, other times it needs to be explicit and frank. nowadays mos is really the least preachy, at least on 'the ecstatic'. to me, that was he doom-inspired, oddball type of work.
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