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Old 12-23-2010, 07:21 AM   #31
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3. What does Allan Houstons player contract have to do with what kind of GM he would be? That's like saying Phil Jackson wouldn't be a good coach because he was a scrub when he played, COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. He may even learn from the mistake the Knicks made on him.

Completely agree.

It is pretty asinine to make the connection from player to GM.

MJ was the greatest player of all time, yet he drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

The two just do not correlate (Houston's contract and GM abilities)
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That Varejao thread got deleted, I apologise because it's been probably my fault.

I don't think it was your fault at all.I think it was the heated "racist" debate I got into.


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Completely agree.

It is pretty asinine to make the connection from player to GM.

MJ was the greatest player of all time, yet he drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

The two just do not correlate (Houston's contract and GM abilities)


Read further into the discussion.I explain a little better.I didnt just get it out of left field.To your Jordan point,that's exactly why I dont like ex-all star players to be GMs. The tend to have little patience with developing talent.Especially MJ.They expect players to be as good as them in a short period of time.The NBA is different now.Guys dont just come in the league and make impacts right away because very few of the top guys stay in college.Especially big men (which we need)
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That Varejao thread got deleted, I apologise because it's been probably my fault.

Anyways I do think Robin Lopez would be cheaper and better.
But as long as we get a defensive C Varejao would do.
I am afraid that MDA doesn't concur that a defensive C is our biggest need.

Mayo/Ellis/Crawford = more scoring, little defense = not our priority.

that is true, but i liked Crawford when he was in NY, and if we can convince him to stay in NY for below the 10mil price tag, he would be a great 2nd unit type player. Our starting lineup, offensively, is set, just need to tweak the center position and Crawford would serve as a decent backup to pg and sg (its not like we use more than 8 players)

Robin Lopez for the short term would actually be great, just have him play off amare and tell him to concentrate on blocking and rebounding.
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what about getting Nick Young?He's like Jamal Crawford Jr lol

As for Robin Lopez,I wouldnt mind having him long term.If you get him now, sign him to an extension,we could essentially have an Anderson Varejao for less than half the price.Not as good a rebounder but I actually like his on ball defense better.
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nick young would be good but hes still immature, and i doubt washington will trade a nice "young" talent now that they freed up some space with arenas gone. He is their up and comming starting shooting guard.

but if hes get-able, by all means go for it

more than getting young, i would go after mcgee, hes an athletic 7-footer and a real good shot blocker.

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nick young would be good but hes still immature, and i doubt washington will trade a nice "young" talent now that they freed up some space with arenas gone. He is their up and comming starting shooting guard.

but if hes get-able, by all means go for it

more than getting young, i would go after mcgee, hes an athletic 7-footer and a real good shot blocker.
Javale McGee is a bonehead with no understanding of the game. For every step forward he takes two back.

About a month ago I was watching a few minutes of a Wizards game at a friend's house. I gave McGee props on a play where he got dunked on by the big foreign kid on the Celtics. I gave him credit on the play because even though he was over-aggressive on his decision to help on a driver McGee was aware enough of what was going on around him to complain that Gilbert Arenas didn't collapse to pressure the Foreigner's attempt. McGee struggled with awareness so I liked that he saw that Arenas didn't help.

Well since then McGee has no only gone back to no situational awareness he's now also making incredibly stupid decisions on the floor. Case in point. I was there in person for the play against Miami. The entire building in unison said "what the f**k was that?".

Oh and he's just as bad a decision maker off the floor. Not only did he go to the Shadow Room (an uppity DC with a terrible DJ) either this weekend or last but he got into a fight with Andray Blatche outside the club.
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Javale McGee is a bonehead with no understanding of the game. For every step forward he takes two back.

About a month ago I was watching a few minutes of a Wizards game at a friend's house. I gave McGee props on a play where he got dunked on by the big foreign kid on the Celtics. I gave him credit on the play because even though he was over-aggressive on his decision to help on a driver McGee was aware enough of what was going on around him to complain that Gilbert Arenas didn't collapse to pressure the Foreigner's attempt. McGee struggled with awareness so I liked that he saw that Arenas didn't help.

Well since then McGee has no only gone back to no situational awareness he's now also making incredibly stupid decisions on the floor. Case in point. I was there in person for the play against Miami. The entire building in unison said "what the f**k was that?".

Oh and he's just as bad a decision maker off the floor. Not only did he go to the Shadow Room (an uppity DC with a terrible DJ) either this weekend or last but he got into a fight with Andray Blatche outside the club.


What, no gun-play involved? What's going on with those Wizards? lol
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What, no gun-play involved? What's going on with those Wizards? lol
Well I gotta give credit to the modern yuppie douchebag owner. He's done a hell of a job finding a professional and quick to respond security group. Guys are professionals to a T.

Now if Javale and his boys decide to go Zanzibar well.... I just hope his entourage is as thorough as they try to look.
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I'm hearing some talks between NY and Minny for Telfair.
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What, no gun-play involved? What's going on with those Wizards? lol

arenas took the guns to disney land
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I'm hearing some talks between NY and Minny for Telfair.

I'm hoping Mr Walsh () waits til they buy him out and then just sign him to the vets min for the rest of the season.
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I'd take JaVale McGee in a heartbeat.He makes dumb plays because he's raw. He's only 22 years old.To expect him to be a genius is unfair.Especially when he didnt play @ a big name college.He's a project but a project that will yield immediate results while you wait for him to develop.The stuff you get automatically is the stuff we need.Rebounding and blocked shots.Plus he can get dunks and easy buckets by running the floor.He's a guy you wont have to feed the ball to get points out of.
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I'd take JaVale McGee in a heartbeat.He makes dumb plays because he's raw. He's only 22 years old.To expect him to be a genius is unfair.Especially when he didnt play @ a big name college.He's a project but a project that will yield immediate results while you wait for him to develop.The stuff you get automatically is the stuff we need.Rebounding and blocked shots.Plus he can get dunks and easy buckets by running the floor.He's a guy you wont have to feed the ball to get points out of.
People make so many excuses for this kid. 22yo or not the guy is in his third season and still making the same stupid decisions as his rookie season.
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