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Old 02-04-2011, 01:50 PM   #16
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The thing I'll say in Felton's defense is just that, his defense...which is usually - though not lately - better than most of the guys listed above. If you think our perimeter is bad now, just be grateful we don't have Steph Curry or Ty Lawson holding down that fort.

I think the dip in his D that we've seen lately is a product of minutes and injury. Also, he seems a little out of shape.
I've seen Felton consistently and consciously ignore his defensive assignment. So at this point, I don't know how Curry or Lawson can be much worse.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:03 PM   #17
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We figured out that Felton isn't top 5 point guard in the league but he is not that bad.

Look at the "Race to the MVP" on nba.com.
Take a look at number 10:


No. 10 (tie): Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge, Raymond Felton, Zach Randolph

Dropping out: Amar'e Stoudemire, New York (No. 8 last week); Deron Williams, Utah (No. 9), and Manu Ginobili, San Antonio (No. 10).
Honorable mention: Ginobili; Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers; Joe Johnson, Atlanta; Josh Smith, Atlanta; Stoudemire; Williams.

It seems like they completely lost their mind
I'm judging from style of play and skillset, not necessarily from a numbers standpoint. These are the glaring weaknesses in Felton's game:
-Passing accuracy (he looks directly at guys he's going to pass it to and even then he still misses his target on a consistent basis)
-Tends to try to shoot himself out of slumps a la Kobe (PGs should never ever do this)
-Pick-and-Roll execution
-Passing versatility (Nash could pass one-handed with either hand, both hands, bounce pass, chest pass, you name it, he's got it. Felton on the other hand................ )
-ballhandling (he has trouble stopping and going, keeping his dribble alive for long periods of time, and dribbling under pressure)
-Doesn't take risks passing the ball (probably because of his lack of passing accuracy) the way Nash does so it ends up going to Amar'e at awkward positions where he has to force a bad shot (and still loses the ball at a considerable rate)
-Tends to ignore defensive assignments and just stands and daydreams on defense
-Tries to show fake hustle by pressuring full court only to let his man go right by him and leave his team playing 4-on-5

These are his strengths:
-Finishing at the rim
-Can catch fire from 3

And that's why I view him as an undersized SG.

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Old 02-04-2011, 06:31 PM   #18
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I personally don't think Lawson is really considerably better than Toney Douglas



If Chauncey wasn't a veteran he wouldn't even have a job.Lawson is the real deal.You'll see in two years when Billups contract runs out.

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I don't like it when people bring up stats without context. It's really annoying. And Felton's stats are up because this system revolves around the PG.

Everyone's numbers go up under this system...not just the pg.Everyones #s are inflated.Look @ David Lee lol

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just be grateful we don't have Steph Curry
I don't think you realize just how good Steph Curry is.He's already clearly better than Felton and he's only in his 2nd year.If you can't see that then I'm "grateful" you're not in our front office.Steph Curry in our system would be lights out.Imagine the firepower of him,Fields and Gallo in our backcourt. It would be raining long range shots like a military war.
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:41 PM   #19
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Default Re: Felton over the last 10 games

I can only address my part.

From what I have seen from Lawson is he wants to score first, dish later.

He has decent defense, but he gambles much like Toney.

It's my opinion that I think they are similar.

In time I will see.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:30 AM   #20
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well he sure hit a wall lol
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:57 AM   #21
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Congratulations to Felton.
It seems that he visited this thread because he was our best man last night against Sixers.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:50 AM   #22
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What REALLY bothers me is when RF shoots the Allen Iverson style shot, and MISSES!!! You know what I mean? I ONLY liked it when Iverson did it, when other people do, it bothers the crap out of me. They should get their own shot style.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:21 PM   #23
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There are liteny of players everyone can choose over him for one reason or another but how many of those guys plays more minutes than him every night?

Until Walsh (with a roster move) Dumbtoni (opening the rotation some how to who dont know) I wont complain about him hitting the wall.

His responsibilities and what he is asked to do now is way more than it was on the Bobcats.
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I think everyone will agree that the general consensus and answer to all of our problems in every topic and in every thread lead to FIRE D'ANTONI!!!
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I think everyone will agree that the general consensus and answer to all of our problems in every topic and in every thread lead to FIRE D'ANTONI!!!
That would be a very good start.
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I think everyone will agree that the general consensus and answer to all of our problems in every topic and in every thread lead to FIRE D'ANTONI!!!
Amen.
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I think everyone will agree that the general consensus and answer to all of our problems in every topic and in every thread lead to FIRE D'ANTONI!!!


People have said we wouldn't have landed STAT if it weren't for MD, I think the $100,000,000 we waved in his face was more of an attractant.

BUT, now that STAT is in the stable, other players (Melo for example) want to play here. MD's formula DOESN'T win rings. How many did MD win in Phoenix? Exactly.

Do you really think if MD wasn't here, Amar'e would lose any sleep? I don't. And I won't.

TAKE A HIKE, MIKE!!!
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People have said we wouldn't have landed STAT if it weren't for MD, I think the $100,000,000 we waved in his face was more of an attractant.

BUT, now that STAT is in the stable, other players (Melo for example) want to play here. MD's formula DOESN'T win rings. How many did MD win in Phoenix? Exactly.

Do you really think if MD wasn't here, Amar'e would lose any sleep? I don't. And I won't.

TAKE A HIKE, MIKE!!!
He came pretty close in Phoenix. Closer than any coach I can think of who is available to replace him. Maybe Mike Brown? Not really a fan of his work outside of getting guys to play D (which is why I think he'd make a good DC).

Only a handful of teams have won rings in the last 25 years, and they're all coached by the same 4 or 5 guys. Jackson, Popovich, Riley, Brown, Rivers. And the confluence of talent they had is well known.

I mean, you could say the same thing about all the other more "traditional" (which is what you'd want, I'm assuming) coaches' styles. Adelman's style? Doesn't win rings. Karl? Zilch. Jerry Sloan? Coming up empty for over two decades now? Either Van Gundy? Nope. And those are all really good coaches.

Coaching is...tricky. This Knicks team is better than it's been in a decade. And we had Larry Brown at one point! That prick.
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I think everyone will agree that the general consensus and answer to all of our problems in every topic and in every thread lead to FIRE D'ANTONI!!!
Yes.
It's our formula for success.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:00 PM   #30
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If only we could get a good coach, like Larry Brown...oh, wait. Or maybe one of the greatest, toughest point guards to ever play the game...oh, erm...yeah...

Mike D'Antoni wasn't here for the better part of the last decade, and they were worse than they are now.

The D'Antoni hate is getting out of control. He has his flaws, but the Knicks actually matter again, for the moment - hell, they're on pace to make the playoffs! - and guess who's coaching them? That's right. Pringles.
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