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Old 02-10-2011, 12:49 AM   #31
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They said Carmelo threw down his headband at halfcourt.

Yep, dude was pissed! I think that does it for him, he's packing his bags tomorrow.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:52 AM   #32
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no wonder melo wants out.

jr smith just completely ignores him as he's clapping for the ball with 10 seconds left. priceless.

melo is arguably the best game winning shot maker in the league and his own team freezes him out. haha. that should seal the deal. say goodbye to melo denver fans.

Happily. We probably have the stupidest team in the league and that INCLUDES Melo. Love how superstars get a free pass. Was it stupid by J.R? Incredibly. Should George Karl have called a timeout? Yes. Should Melo have pouted and hung around at his end and instead of running towards GS end trying to get the ball? Yup. Let's forget Melo's awful defense and stupid turnovers too.

Melo's comments of I seriously have to consider signing the extension with Denver are making me cringe now.
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Smith was also the one who didn't call a time out and almost walked on him that time when Melo was on the floor.

i don't know how any coach tolerates smith. he's out there playing a completely different game 90% of the time. one of the dumbest players in the league and one of the dumbest i've ever seen.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:55 AM   #34
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Happily. We probably have the stupidest team in the league and that INCLUDES Melo. Love how superstars get a free pass. Was it stupid by J.R? Incredibly. Should George Karl have called a timeout? Yes. Should Melo have pouted and hung around at his end and instead of running towards GS end trying to get the ball? Yup. Let's forget Melo's awful defense and stupid turnovers too.

Melo's comments of I seriously have to consider signing the extension with Denver are making me cringe now.

melo needs to leave. they need to blow up the team and start over.

everyone deserves blame obviously, but melo clapped for the ball twice and his teammates froze out pretty much the best game winning shot maker of the last 5 years. melo has the highest efficiency in those situations and a lot of makes.

just can't do that.
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melo needs to leave. they need to blow up the team and start over.

everyone deserves blame obviously, but melo clapped for the ball twice and his teammates froze out pretty much the best game winning shot maker of the last 5 years. melo has the highest efficiency in those situations and a lot of makes.

just can't do that.

Yeah we agree there. Can't have that many low IQ basketball players on the same team.

Melo sat by his own hoop clapped for the ball. J.R obviously being a moron pushing the ball upcourt. Melo could have EASILY ran up court and got the ball with 3 seconds left for a shot. J.R right when he got up court dumped it off to Lawson who passed it to Nene. That's 3 passes with a few a second or two in between. All while Melo just sat down there pouting for the ball.

In the end George Karl is the real moron for not calling a timeout when he saw J.R rebound the ball. Only play where you don't call a timeout is if Ty get's a long rebound and can beat most of the Warrior D back for a layup.
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lettuce be reality melo had one fg in the 4th quarter, probably wouldn't have made the bucket anyway.

He only played like 4 minutes and got 2 shots.

Melo doesn't deserve Denver. Never has. Karl should've been fired years ago. The Front office is and has always been a complete joke, including Kroenke. Just all bad.
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He only played like 4 minutes and got 2 shots.

Melo doesn't deserve Denver. Never has. Karl should've been fired years ago. The Front office is and has always been a complete joke, including Kroenke. Just all bad.

15\8\3 32%
19\5\2 42%
21\7\3 33%
22\10\2 36%

He's had what? 2-3 good playoff outings? In witch 2 came the past 2 years. Denver put up with his little sucker punch when he was like what leading the league in scoring on great efficiency? Put up with his inmature bullshit with that stop snitching stop lying witch is never a good look for a franchise player.

Signed Kenyon. Traded for Iverson. Got AA for nothing. Moved Iverson for Billups. Traded into the draft and got Ty. Only stupid stupid move was dumping Camby for a 2nd round pick. You want to blame someone? Blame Melo for not believing in defense for the first 5 years of his career. Blame Nene\K-Mart for being injured through out Melo's stint with Denver.

Melo's had a GOOD supporting cast. Just not the best supporting cast and he isn't good enough to push them over the teams with better casts. People act like Denver's done nothing for Melo. That Melo's putting up LeBron\Wade like numbers and carrying a team. Heck Melo's situation isn't even like Bosh's where Bosh put up nice numbers and only won like 30-40 games.

This isn't even Melo hate it goes both ways. But come on, seriously? Denver's getting the blame for Melo's lackluster of a career? I don't think so.

Superstar love needs to be stop. Can't get credit where your peaking (Melo WCF) and than none of the blame the previous\present years.
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Jr is an idiot(and im supportive of him in most cases)...melo clearly called for a timeout/and ball and it was ignord....George Karl has terrible rotations and has melo sit out nearly hald the 4th quarter...and melo getts freezed out his team with a potential game tying possession.... how you not gonna feed the most clutch person on your team and league(arguably) in the last possesion in the 4th against a terrible defensive team....we then result to nene..taken a contested shot he has no other choice but to take

But the nuggets have no defense and thats why we can never win...when we played defensively..we made it to the wcf...and since then never seen such success...Melo and nene only people that played decent...but GK is a terrible coach
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I don't think the last play was thaaat bad. JR pushed it up, as there was only 8 seconds left. Then he got it to an open Lawson, who should have had more balls to either take the shot or catch Curry off guard and drive for a layup. Lawson possibly could have even dumped it off to Nene if he drew Lee's help defense.
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He's had what? 2-3 good playoff outings? In witch 2 came the past 2 years. Denver put up with his little sucker punch when he was like what leading the league in scoring on great efficiency? Put up with his inmature bullshit with that stop snitching stop lying witch is never a good look for a franchise player.

Signed Kenyon. Traded for Iverson. Got AA for nothing. Moved Iverson for Billups. Traded into the draft and got Ty. Only stupid stupid move was dumping Camby for a 2nd round pick. You want to blame someone? Blame Melo for not believing in defense for the first 5 years of his career. Blame Nene\K-Mart for being injured through out Melo's stint with Denver.

Melo's had a GOOD supporting cast. Just not the best supporting cast and he isn't good enough to push them over the teams with better casts. People act like Denver's done nothing for Melo. That Melo's putting up LeBron\Wade like numbers and carrying a team. Heck Melo's situation isn't even like Bosh's where Bosh put up nice numbers and only won like 30-40 games.

This isn't even Melo hate it goes both ways. But come on, seriously? Denver's getting the blame for Melo's lackluster of a career? I don't think so.

Superstar love needs to be stop. Can't get credit where your peaking (Melo WCF) and than none of the blame the previous\present years.


Are you shitting me?

This is EASILY the best COMPLIMENT of talent that Denver's EVER put around Melo.


You bring up the Kenyon Martin signing like it was a move that Melo should've gotten over the hump with. That move is one that supports my argument. I love Kenyon, but that hella didn't work out. The guy needed knee surgery 2 months prior to his last season with the Nets. The Nets knew it, the Nuggets had an idea of it, then played him on it and just fuc*ed the other knee up. True all of the injuries that have plagued the Nugz over Melo's career can't be truly blamed on the Nugz, but a lot of Kenyon's re-occurring injury problems and the strife its brought on the team could've been avoided by taking better precaution when he first signed OR not signing him at all.

Traded for Iverson. A player that the coach that should've been fired 3 years ago let become a cancer to the team and gave free reigns to be a ballhog instead of attempting to mold AI into the player the team needed.

Billups was a great trade. In large because he can shoot the ball. His biggest aide to the team was being a threat from 3pt land, and giving something to Melo that he'd never had....more space alongside JR Smith. Prior to the last 2-3 years Denver was a bottom dweller from long distance...meaning they couldn't spread the court....meaning they were missing one of the chief aspects of basketball that promotes winning basketball (right there with defense). For it to have taken 5 years to have denver go into the postseason where defenses couldn't just stack up on Melo and watch a bunch other losers miss open shots led to playoff wins (See the Clippers/Wolves/Spurs series for examples). BTW Billups should be a 3rd-4th best player on a contender at best at this stage. Denver got Billups because he was done in Detroit as they didn't have a superstar that could carry him, and once that superstar is gone one of the first things you're going to see in Denver is how much that Billups will miss that superstar. The lanes Melo creates by drawing coverage, and the open perimeter shots.


I've never said that Denver didn't try to create a winning team for Melo. They just failed at it. Keeping Karl and his many flaws,and taking 6 years to put shooters on the team, and not spending the money when it was available to try and get QUALITY interior help after the WCF run is all it should take to realize why Melo should want to leave if he ever wants to win a ring.

And I do believe that the AA and Ty moves were great.
but they aren't big enough difference makers IMO (at least not yet) and at this stage of Carmelo's career, where he does have options...why hope that they improve enough and the dumbass front office and head coach magically makes the necessary changes it will take to put them over the hump?

And have you seen how they've handled this trade situation? Denver's FO is as bad now as it has ever been

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You just sound like a complete Melo homer to be honest man. What other players of his caliber get teams built perfectly around them? They get talented pieces and try to do exactly what Denver's done. Your basically arguing Denver's stupid they never built a perfect team around him so he could win a ring. They gave it there best shot and considering they went to the WCF(where Melo played poorly against the Lakers, no?). Lost to the Clippers one year with a lower seed. The rest? Well Denver gave him a playoff team in the insanity of the West.

Melo since his ROOKIE year has had a team that can compete for a playoff spot. Right there that's more than half the guy's in the league can say. Melo's had a good supporting cast. Never has he had to carry a team like LeBron\Wade or even Chis Bosh. Heck a guy like Danny Granger at certain parts in his career had less to work with than Melo's had.

Denver's downfall has been defense? What's Melo's weakness? DEFENSE. First 5 years of his career the guy literally didn't play any. Denver put up with his sucking punching\inmature acts both on and off the court.

Still ignoring the fact that Melo's played like utter shit half the times he's made the post season. Can't expect the rest of your team to step up when your franchise player is stepping down.

Did Denver do a perfect job? Not even close. Iverson was an ugly move. Let's not forget that Melo decided to suckerpunch someone and get suspended when he was leading the league in scoring tho so at the time I was completely for it. Denver did a good job surrounding Melo with talent. Melo has had more to work with than lots of All-Stars\Superstars in the past.
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