Originally Posted by NuggetsFan
He's had what? 2-3 good playoff outings? In witch 2 came the past 2 years. Denver put up with his little sucker punch when he was like what leading the league in scoring on great efficiency? Put up with his inmature bullshit with that stop snitching stop lying witch is never a good look for a franchise player.
Signed Kenyon. Traded for Iverson. Got AA for nothing. Moved Iverson for Billups. Traded into the draft and got Ty. Only stupid stupid move was dumping Camby for a 2nd round pick. You want to blame someone? Blame Melo for not believing in defense for the first 5 years of his career. Blame Nene\K-Mart for being injured through out Melo's stint with Denver.
Melo's had a GOOD supporting cast. Just not the best supporting cast and he isn't good enough to push them over the teams with better casts. People act like Denver's done nothing for Melo. That Melo's putting up LeBron\Wade like numbers and carrying a team. Heck Melo's situation isn't even like Bosh's where Bosh put up nice numbers and only won like 30-40 games.
This isn't even Melo hate it goes both ways. But come on, seriously? Denver's getting the blame for Melo's lackluster of a career? I don't think so.
Superstar love needs to be stop. Can't get credit where your peaking (Melo WCF) and than none of the blame the previous\present years.
Are you shitting me?
This is EASILY the best COMPLIMENT of talent that Denver's EVER put around Melo.
You bring up the Kenyon Martin signing like it was a move that Melo should've gotten over the hump with. That move is one that supports my argument. I love Kenyon, but that hella didn't work out. The guy needed knee surgery 2 months prior to his last season with the Nets. The Nets knew it, the Nuggets had an idea of it, then played him on it and just fuc*ed the other knee up. True all of the injuries that have plagued the Nugz over Melo's career can't be truly blamed on the Nugz, but a lot of Kenyon's re-occurring injury problems and the strife its brought on the team could've been avoided by taking better precaution when he first signed OR not signing him at all.
Traded for Iverson. A player that the coach that should've been fired 3 years ago let become a cancer to the team and gave free reigns to be a ballhog instead of attempting to mold AI into the player the team needed.
Billups was a great trade. In large because he can shoot the ball. His biggest aide to the team was being a threat from 3pt land, and giving something to Melo that he'd never had....more space alongside JR Smith. Prior to the last 2-3 years Denver was a bottom dweller from long distance...meaning they couldn't spread the court....meaning they were missing one of the chief aspects of basketball that promotes winning basketball (right there with defense). For it to have taken 5 years to have denver go into the postseason where defenses couldn't just stack up on Melo and watch a bunch other losers miss open shots led to playoff wins (See the Clippers/Wolves/Spurs series for examples). BTW Billups should be a 3rd-4th best player on a contender at best at this stage. Denver got Billups because he was done in Detroit as they didn't have a superstar that could carry him, and once that superstar is gone one of the first things you're going to see in Denver is how much that Billups will miss that superstar. The lanes Melo creates by drawing coverage, and the open perimeter shots.
I've never said that Denver didn't try to create a winning team for Melo. They just failed at it. Keeping Karl and his many flaws,and taking 6 years to put shooters on the team, and not spending the money when it was available to try and get QUALITY interior help after the WCF run is all it should take to realize why Melo should want to leave if he ever wants to win a ring.
And I do believe that the AA and Ty moves were great.
but they aren't big enough difference makers IMO (at least not yet) and at this stage of Carmelo's career, where he does have options...why hope that they improve enough and the dumbass front office and head coach magically makes the necessary changes it will take to put them over the hump?
And have you seen how they've handled this trade situation? Denver's FO is as bad now as it has ever been