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Old 02-15-2011, 11:06 AM   #16
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Default Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis

Obviously this is easier said that done, but my dream scenario is that we can draft Irving, pick up Marc Gasol from free agency and trade Bargnani for a borderline all-star SF.

Gasol
Davis
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DeRozan
Irving

With Johnson, Bayless, Weems, off the bench, while trading Calderon for some more bench depth.

It wouldn't be a contending team, and it might not even be a playoff team, but another years worth of draft picks afterword and every player assumingly progressing, it would be a great start in my opinion.
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:55 PM   #17
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I would love that team. It would be a vet or two away from being a pretty solid playoff team (depending on who we'd be trading Bargnani and Calderon for).
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:03 PM   #18
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Obviously this is easier said that done, but my dream scenario is that we can draft Irving, pick up Marc Gasol from free agency and trade Bargnani for a borderline all-star SF.

Gasol
Davis
(Bargnani Trade)
DeRozan
Irving

With Johnson, Bayless, Weems, off the bench, while trading Calderon for some more bench depth.

It wouldn't be a contending team, and it might not even be a playoff team, but another years worth of draft picks afterword and every player assumingly progressing, it would be a great start in my opinion.


Thats a very good core to build around.. just need a couple solid vets and some good management/coaching.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:07 PM   #19
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Default Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis

This draft we need to get either Sullinger, Perry Jones, Williams or Irving. Everything else is bust to me. Some nice players like Kanter but I really want one of those 4.
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This draft we need to get either Sullinger, Perry Jones, Williams or Irving. Everything else is bust to me. Some nice players like Kanter but I really want one of those 4.


I still think that Harrison Barnes is going to be a beast.
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I still think that Harrison Barnes is going to be a beast.



Personally the top two choices for the Raps should be Irving or Barnes.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:27 AM   #22
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What is the best site for getting a good review of players to be drafted? I always check a certain one out before draft day to form a quick, tainted opinion on ISH, to stir up shit. But I can't remember it.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:47 AM   #23
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I'd love to see the raptors make a trade, giving the Nuggets Bargs for Nene.
Nene would be the perfect fit for the raptors and would compliment Davis and Amir Johnson nicely. Nene hopefully would re-sign and has a brazilian buddy to play with in a good international city look Toronto.

I think the raptors would have to give up something in addition to just Nene, maybe a young asset like Weems would get the deal done.

Raptors would have to draft a good young wing player.

Also, trading Calderon would still be the hard task.

Calderon Bayless
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:21 AM   #24
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Personally the top two choices for the Raps should be Irving or Barnes.
The question is, if we don't get Mr. Barnes, what's gonna be your new screen name?
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What is the best site for getting a good review of players to be drafted? I always check a certain one out before draft day to form a quick, tainted opinion on ISH, to stir up shit. But I can't remember it.

Draftexpress is usually on the money: http://www.draftexpress.com/

They have much more detailed reports closer pre draft though. Of interest to the Raps though there are some nice articles about Perry Jones, Irving, and Sullinger up right now.

http://www.google.com/custom?q=draft...texp ress.com
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The question is, if we don't get Mr. Barnes, what's gonna be your new screen name?

Its not going to change? I actually think the Raps should take Irving over Barnes based on position. If Barnes gets drafted by another team, well then thats OK. I'm still going to be a Raptors fan, and I always will be.
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I'd love to see the raptors make a trade, giving the Nuggets Bargs for Nene. Nene would be the perfect fit for the raptors and would compliment Davis and Amir Johnson nicely. Nene hopefully would re-sign and has a brazilian buddy to play with in a good international city look Toronto.

I hadnt considered Nene before - is his contract up ? Is he looking for something?? I think I totally agree with you that Nene would be a perfect fit in TO. The only thing is that if the nuggets loose Melo (trade) then they have the cap room and the will to resign Nene.

I had posted earlier that there seem to be a unique number of legit 5s in play or available this year - primarily possibly due to the CBA negotiations. Nene wasnt one I scoped on.

I also think Calderon and the contract in fact wont be as hard to move as imagined... but it may also have to playout with the Melo deal.

If Denver looses Billups (as well on purpose in a retooling) or some team (Knicks) have to give up PG #1 (Felton) - I think Jose would be the perfect fit for either situation. I also think NO would look at Jose as a real viable option if they think Cpaul is a lost cause.

Not really a 3 way trade - more along the lines as the hired gun (2 years remaining ?) to bring the team along till one or all franchises can bid on CPaul renewal contract.

By that defintion Jose is a proven capable floor manager that fits the bill for a franchise in that postion.
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Ed Davis posterizing Nazr Mohammad last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekpS9BUEg5A

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Ed Davis posterizing Nazr Mohammad last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekpS9BUEg5A

Loving this kid more and more ever game!

For real. Leo said it best. Fearless!
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Another interesting article I found about Ed Davis. It would seem that trading Bargnani is no longer just a quiet whisper anymore, it could actually happen.

http://www.thestar.com/article/96257...aptors-rebuild
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Blake Griffin and Ed Davis are both 6-foot-10 NBA rookies, but they’re hardly doppelgangers.

Griffin, the L.A. Clippers forward, could credibly be cast in a Hollywood comic-book movie as, say, The Incredible Hulk; no 3-D wizardry or digital enhancement would be required to make his 251 pounds look monstrous.

Davis, meanwhile, carries his 215 pounds with a slouchy nonchalance, not to mention a penchant for wearing golf shirts with the buttons done up to the top. Nobody’s outsized menace, he would not look out of place as, say, an attendee at a comic-book convention.

So when Davis used a late-game pump fake to tempt Griffin airborne during Saturday night’s Raptors-Clippers game at the Staples Center, observers braced for a crash worthy of a super-hero blockbuster. It was Davis’s block, presumably, about to be busted.

Sure enough, gravity brought Griffin back to earth atop the Raptor’s bony frame. And in that possibly calamitous instant, Raptor fans affirmed what they’d probably already known about the Toronto rookie that’s been a rare bright spot on a darkly lit season: Davis may be skinny, but he’s heavy on savvy.

“I just tried to keep my back straight,” said Davis, explaining how he prepared to absorb Griffin’s impact. “So it wouldn’t collapse.”

Given that the 21-year-old took the court as a starter on Saturday, this with Andrea Bargnani out with a sore ankle — and given that Davis logged a team-high 39 minutes a little less than 24 hours after he’d played 36 minutes in Oakland — well, nobody would have been particularly surprised if Saturday’s game turned out to be a dud for Davis.

Instead, it turned out to be one of his best performances of the year. He set another career high with 21 points, this on efficient 8-for-11 shooting from the field. He hauled down a team-high 11 rebounds. And while he did find himself flattened under Griffin’s bulk, he soon regained his feet and kept up the fight.

If Davis’s road-trip-capping performance helped add a touch of credibility to GM Bryan Colangelo’s rebuilding plan, it also made a case, albeit an anecdotal one, that the presence of Bargnani — currently day-to-day with bone spurs in his right ankle — is only holding Davis back.

There are voices within the team who’ll tell you that, with Davis establishing himself as an ascendant talent, the prudent way forward for the Raptors is to trade the Italian.

Colangelo has a history of being unsentimental in his buying and selling of players, but he has shown an unusually strong attachment to the seven-footer he selected with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft.

Still, while Colangelo has insisted and insisted and insisted he can build a winning team with a one-dimensional shooter as the starting centre, he has failed and failed and failed to do so. So maybe it’s time to move on.

Perhaps the best argument for unloading the Roman goes something like this. If Davis is soon to grab a full-time role as the starting power forward, it’s asking too much of him to do it alongside a soft-to-the-touch centre who shows zero interest in sharing the frontcourt workload on defence and on the glass. Chris Bosh enjoyed the role so much he moved to Miami.

Playing Davis alongside Bargnani, in other words, is essentially setting Davis up to fail; or, if your forecast is slightly more optimistic, leave as a free agent when he finally gets good.

It’s more complicated than that, of course. Exactly what Bargnani could fetch is anyone’s guess, and certainly it’ll be no grand ransom. But if you’re making the sales pitch, he does have definable attributes of hard-to-find height and shooting range. He’s not egregiously overpaid by NBA standards.

And there are learned basketball men who speculate that, placed on a contending team with veteran self-policing, he could be peer-pressured into actually giving a crap about something other than his jump shot.

The problem, if he stays, is that Bargnani perpetuates a culture in which he gobbles up minutes and shots he never really earns. (Witness Friday’s embarrassing loss in Oakland, when he occupied the floor for 27 minutes, jacked up 10 field-goal attempts and was the only player on either roster, save for point guard Jose Calderon, not to get a single rebound).

It’s difficult for a coach to preach accountability when the leading scorer is the chief slacker.

Would the Raptors miss Bargnani’s floor-spreading, bucket-filling production? For sure. Do they currently employ a true centre to man the post? No.


But pairing the under-sized Amir Johnson with Davis on the frontline could be a stopgap; it worked okay in Saturday’s 94-90 loss to the Clippers, at least, and it’s but one option for a team with salary-cap flexibility going forward. And Davis, who has vowed to hit the weight room in the offseason, is showing signs of having a heart that could compensate for his lack of heft.
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