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Old 03-01-2011, 04:19 PM   #46
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Arroyo sucks.

And they weren't going to cut Chalmers for Bibby because Chalmers is an excellent defender.. and you need that with some of the PG's in the east.


That's a massive stretch.
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Bibby is an upgrade for the Heat. Arroyo was a terrible defender too, but he can't shoot threes like Bibby can.
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Is it even confirmed?
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Is it even confirmed?

Yes, they just have to wait till tmrw sometime to clear waivers.
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Yes, they just have to wait till tmrw sometime to clear waivers.

Ah =/. I didn't want Miami getting him, he looked interested in them to though.
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That's a massive stretch.

At least he is quick enough to keep up with Rondo or Rose. At least Chalmers has quick hands and can slap the ball free. Bibby will only get abused.

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Why the hell would the Bulls want to run with Miami ? They'll get killed as Miami is the far superior transition team. They own on the fast breaks.

how do you think the Heat got the 10 point lead in the first half of the last game ? Because they were running all over the bulls with quick transition baskets. And then the Bulls decided to slow it down to a halfcourt game.

The Knicks were smart to do that as well after Miami owned the transition game getting a big lead in the 1st quarter by the momentum from fast breaks.

Miami has the #1 ranked perimeter defense in the league with great defenders like chalmers, wade and lebron, and they gets lots of turnovers the other way for fast break points. Miami leads the league with field goal percentage against at 42.6, so the long rebounds from all the missed shots from the opponent creates more fastbreak opportunities.

whenever miami fast breaks with some good transition, it's not just about the points from the fast break, but it gives them momentum for minutes after that... the team plays better like they're in a zone.

You have to slow down the game vs Miami to have a chance. And this doesn't help Noah's advantage because Miami can put any center there and contain him down low in the half court as noah has no post-up game. Anthony is a good defender who's athletic, can shot block and can move..and that's why he's there. He can contain noah without a problem one-on-one in the low post.

You missed the point. The point is Chicago's elite defense, and Noah's elite defense, will create fastbreak opportunities for the Chicago Bulls. Noah will destroy whatever old geezer (Big Z or Eric Dampier) tries to run with him on the break when the Bulls have the Ball.

Nobody is afraid of the Heat. Certainly not the Chicago Bulls who have a better team, faaar better PG, faaar better bench, faaar better bigs, and a faaar better Coach. Chicago owns the HEAT this season.

Miami sucks in the halfcourt game. That's what the playoffs are.
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Don't get it twisted dude, Bibby is a much better shooter than Arroyo. All of Arroyo's shots this season have been enough time to watch the 5th set of a Wimbledon final type wide open. LeBatard said Bibby was shooting like high 60's on open baskets yesterday.
I like the analogy. While true, I still think Arroyo's a bit better of a fit, although Bibby's a better player. Either way I think it's a lateral move, I may be wrong, but I dou....we'll see!

Do you think he'll get major minutes or just like 10 minutes or so?
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I did read somewhere that Lebron talked Bibby into it, if this deal is confirmed its great news. Bibby is a great traditional pointguard who has a tough mentality, great basketball IQ, is a great passer and shooter, so he will flourish alongside Lebron & Wade even if he wont be able to handle the ball all the time because he certainly will get alot of open shots he will be able to convert and i remember him being clutch aswell.
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Carlos Arroyo

5.6 ppg
2.0 apg
1.9 rpg
PER 9.54

And dude was born the same day as me...wow....

I think he be cool as a 3rd option for PG...come to LA kid!!!
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Carlos Arroyo

5.6 ppg
2.0 apg
1.9 rpg
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And dude was born the same day as me...wow....

I think he be cool as a 3rd option for PG...come to LA kid!!!


Daaang, you're old!!
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You missed the point. The point is Chicago's elite defense, and Noah's elite defense, will create fastbreak opportunities for the Chicago Bulls. Noah will destroy whatever old geezer (Big Z or Eric Dampier) tries to run with him on the break when the Bulls have the Ball.

Nobody is afraid of the Heat. Certainly not the Chicago Bulls who have a better team, faaar better PG, faaar better bench, faaar better bigs, and a faaar better Coach. Chicago owns the HEAT this season.

Miami sucks in the halfcourt game. That's what the playoffs are.

Miami's defense is ranked #1 in field goal percentage against at 42.6 ;)

Your wings totally suck defensively to try to guard Lebron/Wade and Miami has the people to guard Rose.

and chicago's bench only averages 5 pts a game more than Miami and that was without a healthy miller and haslem for most of the season.

You have better bigs but you don't have a good post up center and that's what gives miami problems.. they can do fine against a PF who can post up. especially when haslem gets back.

And of course, the Heat have much better outside shooting than the Bulls do. The bulls don't have the consistent outside shooting to beat the heat.

Forget about the laid back regular season, Wade and Lebron are going to relentlessly attack and attack the paint in the playoffs and get your bigs in foul trouble. Lebron and Wade are the best wing combo ever besides MJ and Pippen and you're going to guard them with crap players like Korvor/Deng/Brewer/Bogans?? the worst wing rotation of the playoff teams against the best wing combo ever besides jordan/pippen ? really?

Wade and Lebron always owned the bulls with big games. Your wing rotation sucks !

Korvor/Deng/Brewer/bogans is your answer to the best ever wing combo BOTH OFFENSIVELY AND DEFENSIVELY besides jordan/pippen ?

That's all you got ?

Heat in 5 or 6

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Miami's defense is ranked #1 in field goal percentage against at 42.6 ;)

Your wings totally suck defensively to try to guard Lebron/Wade and Miami has the people to guard Rose.

and chicago's bench only averages 5 pts a game more than Miami and that was without a healthy miller and haslem for most of the season.

You have better bigs but you don't have a good post up center and that's what gives miami problems.. they can do fine against a PF who can post up. especially when haslem gets back.

And of course, the Heat have much better outside shooting than the Bulls do. The bulls don't have the consistent outside shooting to beat the heat.

Forget about the laid back regular season, Wade and Lebron are going to relentlessly attack and attack the paint in the playoffs and get your bigs in foul trouble. Lebron and Wade are the best wing combo ever besides MJ and Pippen and you're going to guard them with crap defensive players like Korvor/Deng/Brewer/Bogans?? the worst wings in the playoffs ? really?

Wade and Lebron always owned the bulls with big games. Your wings suck !

Korvor/Deng/Brewer/bogans is your answer to the best wing combo BOTH OFFENSIVELY AND DEFENSIVELY since jordan/pippen ?

That's all you got ?

Heat in 6

1) I don't get it... Rose can't do the same???

2) Noah is a great defensive big.

3) If it was as easy as just "relentlessly attack and get to the line" LeBron would have 3 rings.

Two problems with the heat as a collective.

1) Their half-court offense. Because come playoff time everything slows down and it's about how you executed in the half-court. This is why the Lakers manage to get the finals again and again, and why the Boston Celtics got there last year.

2) Crunch time. Again something that becomes that much bigger playoff time. Games get closer, and not only is it about stops, but also being able to score in the other end. 5 mins to go, game on the line, Heat are the worst of the elite teams in trying to score. Becuase LeBron becomes the dominant ball handler, Wade becomes a spot-up shooter, and Bosh is just... Bosh. So now instead of the big 2.5, you have the big 2. And that is why the Heat lost the other night against the Knicks.
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