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Old 03-20-2011, 03:43 AM   #31
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I know you are comparing their basketball admission criteria to their normal admission criteria, which much higher. What I am saying is that their basketball admission criteria is much higher than just about every other school in the country.

My reason for the Rose reference was to show that some schools accept players who have shown almost zero academic qualifications for being at school. It wasn't necessarily a knock towards him. Memphis isn't the first school to do something like that, nor will it be the last.

what basis do you have to say this?

You have any stats to say that students at Duke on average have better stats than:

UCLA
Stanford
Notre Dame
Vandy
Wake Forrest
UVA
Bucknell
Layafette
Butler
U of C - Whatever
Texas
BYU
Davidson
Michigan
Lehigh
Florida
-I wont even mention Ivys
etc..

you just know Duke has better students on average? don't see how that is possible without the numbers

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Old 03-20-2011, 03:46 AM   #32
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what basis do you have to say this?

Jalen Rose's comments.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:49 AM   #33
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Jalen Rose's comments.

well that isnt enough to make a solid argument. truth is you have no knowledge of the data necessary to make such a claim.

you have bout in the Duke hype machine....
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There are over 100 division I schools in the NCAA. You listed about 10 or so. I didn't say every school.
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There are over 100 division I schools in the NCAA. You listed about 10 or so. I didn't say every school.

now you are arguing semantics. im out, it is late. Keep sipping that Duke Kool Aid.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:09 AM   #36
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Default Re: Anyone else think Jalen Rose planned this?

Grant's article didn't strike me as pretentious at all (unless a rich vocabulary and the ability to write well is considered pretentious)

wouldn't you want to sound articulate in a situation like this? sure, Hill's language might further emphasize the class gap, but at the same time, you can't fault him for being intelligent. I mean, should he have dumbed the letter down and laced it with urban slang?
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:08 AM   #37
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A black man showing his education = pretentious.
Awhite man doing the same= douche.

Really....

What kind of controversy are you looking for here? They mean essentially the same thing. In fact, the words are often used together as in: "pretentious douche" I just have never personally heard an African-American called a douche in this context. But, yes Hill was being a douche.

There's a difference between showing your education and trying to show off how smart you are. As somebody said, Hill clearly wrote his editorial for the NYT audience. That's fine. But there's a difference between demonstrating that one is intelligent, literate, and educated and being obnoxious, and a good writer knows when he's crossed that line. As a wise educator once said, using the biggest words doesn't prove you have the most biggest mind.

But, to demonstrate the difference between showing the ability to write intelligently and being a pretentious douche, here are three ways of expressing the same statement:

1. I don't have much money right now (normal, conversational English: fine)

2. I am currently facing some financial hardship (intelligent, well-written English: fine)

3. I am presently in a pusillanimous state (douche!)

See the difference?
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:56 AM   #38
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What

He tweeted Grant before the thing aired that it was how he felt as a kid
The whole thing is being blown out of proportion, he's not trying to disrespect anyone just saying how he felt as a young black male growing up in a difficult situation compared to people like Grant who have everything from Day 1
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what happened between the 2?

I wasnt even aware the 2 were mad at each other. A summary please?
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