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Old 03-19-2011, 09:59 AM   #16
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Explain overrated....what has the media put out there about him. General consensus on Kobe is that he is one of the best players of his generation and probably set up to be the second best SG of all time.

Argue why not? Because he is a "shot jacker" is a lame duck excuse of an argument. He missed game winners? So did other great players.

You will lose in the argument you know why...you can not deny Kobe's career.

Part of the best duo's in the NBA that won 3 straight titles.
Do not give me that second fiddle crap so what if he was. That suppose to make him who Pippen? ANd last I checked Pippen played that fiddle to the HOF.

2 titles as the main guy after everyone else said he would never do that.

Regular Season MVP...could easily be more.

Endless NBA first teams and first team defense.

81 points in a single game.

Longest 40 point game streak.

list goes on and will continue to grow.

And you still say overrated?


Excellent post. And I agree with most all of it. But you did make one mistake. Kobe had a streak of nine games of 40+ points, and I believe he averaged 44 ppg in that streak. Chamberlain had TWO streaks of 14 straight games of 40+ points, and in those two streaks he averaged 53 ppg and 54 ppg.

But, most all of the rest of this post is spot-on.

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Rings definitely matter.

How a player wins those rings definitely matters as well.

But in general on here, rings are way over-rated for comparing players. Don't use the agenda crap with me, because MJ and Russell are the two guys i have above everyone else.

What we are saying, is so much of winning a ring is dependent on things outside of the control of one player. There are so many games that are impacted by the coach or role players or secondary players to get into this area of trying to credit one player with a ring. So when I hear...."MJ has 6 vs Kobe's 5 or Duncan's 4. Please. Give it a rest. Those teams won titles.

Is Kobe worse if Robert Horry and Derek Fisher don't make huge shot after huge shot? Did he somehow play the game worse? Does Kobe's game 7 last year become worse if Gasol/Artest/Fisher didn't make huge plays down the stretch?

Of course not. But that is what we do here. We pretend that all players have equal chances to win rings and then we pretend that all rings are equal.

Christ, just look at the level of play of Kobe for his career in the finals. What other all time great had the luxury of playing like that for his career in the finals and still walking away with 5 rings? I can't even remotely think of anyone close.

Imagine Lebron playing as awful as he did in 07 but still having a ring. Does that make him a better player? If you answer yes to this....i give up.

So the logical answer is no.....so can we all agree that often times rings are not won/lost by one player.

I'm just not impressed as much with any player that can have a poor series on the biggest stage and still win. Its still a great a accomplishment, but I'm not going to put Kobe's last 2 performances in the finals in the same stratosphere was some of Jordan's or Hakeem's or Duncan's or Shaq's or Magic's.

Circumstances matter when we start talking players. Its not just about Kobe. Sorry, same will be true with Lebron/Wade. Their potential rings just won't mean as much as Jordan's or Duncan's. The only thing Wade/Lebron have going for them is that they can still play really well and win. And ultimately, that is why Kobe's teams are always brought up....his level of play and impact warrants it. If Kobe played great and won, nobody would say a thing. But when you shoot 41% for your career in the finals and have some truly horrific performances....team strength is going to come into play when we hear "5 rings".

And, while this post is more "anti-Kobe" than Crisoner's, it too is almost right on the money.

And that's the real issue on this forum with Kobe. No intelligent poster is going to argue that Kobe has been one of the greatest ever. But no intelligent poster would claim that Kobe is a GOAT candidate, either. He is what he is...a player who should be ranked in the bottom tier of most "all-time top-10" lists.

He has been among the top-5 players in the NBA for almost his entire career, and at his best, he is perhaps the second most prolific scorer in NBA history. But, at his worst, he has put up some downright awful games. And, unfortunately for Kobe, several of those awful games occurred in his Finals. And, while MJ also had some horrible playoff and Finals games, he also had the most explosive ones, as well. We are still waiting for Kobe's "signature moment" in the Finals.
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Excellent post. And I agree with most all of it. But you did make one mistake. Kobe had a streak of nine games of 40+ points, and I believe he averaged 44 ppg in that streak. Chamberlain had TWO streaks of 14 straight games of 40+ points, and in those two streaks he averaged 53 ppg and 54 ppg.

But, most all of the rest of this post is spot-on.



And, while this post is more "anti-Kobe" than Crisoner's, it too is almost right on the money.

And that's the real issue on this forum with Kobe. No intelligent poster is going to argue that Kobe has been one of the greatest ever. But no intelligent poster would claim that Kobe is a GOAT candidate, either. He is what he is...a player who should be ranked in the bottom tier of most "all-time top-10" lists.

He has been among the top-5 players in the NBA for almost his entire career, and at his best, he is perhaps the second most prolific scorer in NBA history. But, at his worst, he has put up some downright awful games. And, unfortunately for Kobe, several of those awful games occurred in his Finals. And, while MJ also had some horrible playoff and Finals games, he also had the most explosive ones, as well. We are still waiting for Kobe's "signature moment" in the Finals.

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I got Kobe at 8 at the moment....but yeAh we headed the Jordan vs. Kobe talk long a go. Only troll keep bringing it up. My whole thing is all this Kobe OVERATED and chucker talk...that sh*t is a broken record argument as well.
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I got Kobe at 8 at the moment....but yeAh we headed the Jordan vs. Kobe talk long a go. Only troll keep bringing it up. My whole thing is all this Kobe OVERATED and chucker talk...that sh*t is a broken record argument as well.

Exactly. Anytime you mention Kobe being great or being one of the greatest ever all anyone says is that "6-24" "chucker" "Kobrick" shit. It's really stupid and unnecessary
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Oh and about Kobe's Sig moment in the Finals....game 5 of the 2000 Finals when Shaq foul out. There u go.
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Oh and about Kobe's Sig moment in the Finals....game 5 of the 2000 Finals when Shaq foul out. There u go.

EXACTLY! Everyone seems to forget/ignore this
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Rings definitely matter.

How a player wins those rings definitely matters as well.

But in general on here, rings are way over-rated for comparing players. Don't use the agenda crap with me, because MJ and Russell are the two guys i have above everyone else.

What we are saying, is so much of winning a ring is dependent on things outside of the control of one player. There are so many games that are impacted by the coach or role players or secondary players to get into this area of trying to credit one player with a ring. So when I hear...."MJ has 6 vs Kobe's 5 or Duncan's 4. Please. Give it a rest. Those teams won titles.

Is Kobe worse if Robert Horry and Derek Fisher don't make huge shot after huge shot? Did he somehow play the game worse? Does Kobe's game 7 last year become worse if Gasol/Artest/Fisher didn't make huge plays down the stretch?

Of course not. But that is what we do here. We pretend that all players have equal chances to win rings and then we pretend that all rings are equal.

Christ, just look at the level of play of Kobe for his career in the finals. What other all time great had the luxury of playing like that for his career in the finals and still walking away with 5 rings? I can't even remotely think of anyone close.

Imagine Lebron playing as awful as he did in 07 but still having a ring. Does that make him a better player? If you answer yes to this....i give up.

So the logical answer is no.....so can we all agree that often times rings are not won/lost by one player.

I'm just not impressed as much with any player that can have a poor series on the biggest stage and still win. Its still a great a accomplishment, but I'm not going to put Kobe's last 2 performances in the finals in the same stratosphere was some of Jordan's or Hakeem's or Duncan's or Shaq's or Magic's.

Circumstances matter when we start talking players. Its not just about Kobe. Sorry, same will be true with Lebron/Wade. Their potential rings just won't mean as much as Jordan's or Duncan's. The only thing Wade/Lebron have going for them is that they can still play really well and win. And ultimately, that is why Kobe's teams are always brought up....his level of play and impact warrants it. If Kobe played great and won, nobody would say a thing. But when you shoot 41% for your career in the finals and have some truly horrific performances....team strength is going to come into play when we hear "5 rings".

Finals are not always the most important part of winning a title. For those early Lakers teams the championship was won in the Western Conference. The Finals were just a formality. I put just as much stock in those series against Sacramento and San Antonio because honestly Philly and NJ could not beat them....

Like you said circumstances matter.

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Rings definitely matter.

How a player wins those rings definitely matters as well.

But in general on here, rings are way over-rated for comparing players. Don't use the agenda crap with me, because MJ and Russell are the two guys i have above everyone else.

What we are saying, is so much of winning a ring is dependent on things outside of the control of one player. There are so many games that are impacted by the coach or role players or secondary players to get into this area of trying to credit one player with a ring. So when I hear...."MJ has 6 vs Kobe's 5 or Duncan's 4. Please. Give it a rest. Those teams won titles.

Is Kobe worse if Robert Horry and Derek Fisher don't make huge shot after huge shot? Did he somehow play the game worse? Does Kobe's game 7 last year become worse if Gasol/Artest/Fisher didn't make huge plays down the stretch?

Of course not. But that is what we do here. We pretend that all players have equal chances to win rings and then we pretend that all rings are equal.

Christ, just look at the level of play of Kobe for his career in the finals. What other all time great had the luxury of playing like that for his career in the finals and still walking away with 5 rings? I can't even remotely think of anyone close.

Imagine Lebron playing as awful as he did in 07 but still having a ring. Does that make him a better player? If you answer yes to this....i give up.

So the logical answer is no.....so can we all agree that often times rings are not won/lost by one player.

I'm just not impressed as much with any player that can have a poor series on the biggest stage and still win. Its still a great a accomplishment, but I'm not going to put Kobe's last 2 performances in the finals in the same stratosphere was some of Jordan's or Hakeem's or Duncan's or Shaq's or Magic's.

Circumstances matter when we start talking players. Its not just about Kobe. Sorry, same will be true with Lebron/Wade. Their potential rings just won't mean as much as Jordan's or Duncan's. The only thing Wade/Lebron have going for them is that they can still play really well and win. And ultimately, that is why Kobe's teams are always brought up....his level of play and impact warrants it. If Kobe played great and won, nobody would say a thing. But when you shoot 41% for your career in the finals and have some truly horrific performances....team strength is going to come into play when we hear "5 rings".


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So here is what I got...

The media pimped Kobe on to us...and now Rose...etc. etc. etc. and LeBron is better then both.
Rings do not matter because it is a team sport...Kobe defense is overrated because he plays when he wants to play and gets away with murder. And stats tell the truth and nothing but.
He does come on saying the Kobe is one of the 6 greatest perimeter players of all time.

Where should I start....

Let's talk about media "pimping".
When Kobe came to the NBA the media did push for him in their ever endless quest to dub someone the new Jordan. Nothing new...they did that with Harold Miner, Grant Hill, Penny and countless others. Yes he does play for a major market but he got the attention first off because he was good. It does help he was playing for the Lakers but that is not the main reason Kobe was "pimped". Last I checked Cleveland is a small market and they had a "King" who gets more media play then anyone else. OKC with Durant with his new huge Nike contract is about to get pimped as well...guess what these guys have something in common with Kobe...they are good.

The whole rings do not count BS....Kobe served key roles in all 5 title runs. The first three as the second part of an NBA's greatest duo and the other 2 as the main guy. Titles are the most important STAT for a star player. It makes your career legendary. Who we will we remember...Magic, Bird and the Dream as top ten greatest? Or Malone, Ewing, and Iverson? I rest my case. Titles matter...they just do not matter at the moment if you have an agenda.

Kobe's defense....he is a good defender. Kobe at the top of his game can shut down the main player on the other team and always wanted that assignment. And he does not benefit from being able to hand check people like they where able to do in the 90's. Look at Kobe Gold Medal performance and role on the USA team.

Now STATS......other wise known as Kobe's FG%. That's just it...people want to call him a chucker...a ball hog (Kobe scored 81 but had no assist) and this all makes him overrated and incomparable to MJ.
I will agree with that...the MJ part. That is what sets Jordan higher on my list then Kobe...and that is what is different in their games. But this does not make Kobe overrated in any which way. It is Kobe's game...like Mike he leaves no bullets in the chamber but Kobe takes more difficult shots. And that's just Kobe...when he is on fire and he makes everything it is a sight to see. And when he is off some night Kobe will still make the ones he needs to make to keep the Lakers in the game or win it in the clutch. But like I said that is his game and it is fearless. I would go to battle with a guy like Kobe on my team anytime. And when all is said and done Kobe will earn his spots as one of the greatest of all time...right behind Jordan.

Now stop this overrated crap.
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I find this video pretty interesting. Kobe homers,
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Kobe's not overrated, maybe a little overhyped.
It's not Kobe's fault, it's the medias fault.
I think that Kobe right now in the bottom tier of the top 10 is reasonable.
Each player is different, and has a different style of play. Some players are just volume scorers, its the way they are. They take difficult shots. You are going to tell me that Allen Iverson or Tracy Mcgrady sucked, just because of a low FG%? Bs. Both players were incredible in their primes. Have you ever watched them play? Same goes for Kobe.

Refs won't even allow you to breathe on Kobe? A little over exaggerating there? I remember in the OKC game, and plenty of other games this year, Kobe got hammered hard by multiple defenders on a drive and no call. Kobe doesn't get away with everything. And look at his technical fouls.
Dwyane Wade and LeBron James both complain to the refs constantly too, every star player can have ego problems. Every Star player has had a bad moment whether it's on or off the court, etc at some point of their careers. Even Michael Jordan punched of his teammates in the face. You should've seen a D-Wade play earlier this season, he didn't get the call either.

So quit saying Kobe gets away with everything. Because he doesn't. And neither do all the superstars in the league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFA5vSjvzGk

All these players that are media hyped have one thing in common: They are all really good. Period. They are getting hyped for a reason.
If they really sucked, they won't be hyped at all.
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