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Old 03-19-2011, 03:55 PM   #31
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Default Re: Without Kobe Bryant in the lineup, the Lakers would be ________.

They will be title contenders 20 more FGA for bynum and gasol. Without kobe the laker bigs would be used to their maximum potential. They will have fisher to knock down clutch shots. Fisher doesn't disappear in crunch time during the playoffs.
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:57 PM   #32
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not as good as they are now
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:14 PM   #33
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55 win team able to sweep the NBA Champions in the regular season....getting all the way to the 2nd round and lose in 7 games on a Bad call to the EC Champions.

oh wait...that's the Bull's without Jordan...



Lakers - Kobe = 35 - 40 wins get swept in the first round. (Gasol never won a playoff game before L.A...Odom with Wade barely beat a BDiddy led Hornets team)

You Stans constantly peddle this story like the Bulls were just 1 call away from winning the championship or something.

Fact:

Bulls with Jordan: Championship
Bulls without Jordan: No Championship

Get over it.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:17 PM   #34
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You Stans constantly peddle this story like the Bulls were just 1 call away from winning the championship or something.

Fact:

Bulls with Jordan: Championship
Bulls without Jordan: No Championship

Get over it.

lol at alphawolf predicting 35 wins. Gasol won 50 on the grizzlies with a worse team and worse coach. and Gasol is now a better player.

this team would be looking at around 55 wins if healthy and be a contender to beat everyone but the spurs in the west.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:19 PM   #35
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Default Re: Without Kobe Bryant in the lineup, the Lakers would be ________.

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They will be title contenders 20 more FGA for bynum and gasol. Without kobe the laker bigs would be used to their maximum potential. They will have fisher to knock down clutch shots. Fisher doesn't disappear in crunch time during the playoffs.




This is just ridiculous.


Why was this thread created? NOTHING good can come from threads like this.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:22 PM   #36
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Default Re: Without Kobe Bryant in the lineup, the Lakers would be ________.

And to answer the OP's question:



Without Kobe, the Lakers are still a 50+ win team, and very solid.




Kobe to me, is the difference for them in terms of a deep/finals and or championship playoff run.



Without him, I see LA as a second round team in the west.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:24 PM   #37
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You Stans constantly peddle this story like the Bulls were just 1 call away from winning the championship or something.

Fact:

Bulls with Jordan: Championship
Bulls without Jordan: No Championship

Get over it.

same with kobe
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:25 PM   #38
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Fact:

Bulls with Jordan: Championship
Bulls without Jordan: No Championship

Get over it.

Fact:

Chicago without Pippen: 10 straight years without a winning season (above .500) from 1978-1987. 6 years without a winning a playoff series.

Chicago with Pippen: Never had a losing season (below .500) from 1988-1998, 6 championships and never failed to win a playoff series. The only exception is 2003-04 when he only played 23 games.

Facts are facts.

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Old 03-19-2011, 04:28 PM   #39
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Default Re: Without Kobe Bryant in the lineup, the Lakers would be ________.

Still a legit contender in the west. Big front line, a couple of perimeter defenders/shooters... they're a championship built team.

50+ wins and a trip to the WCF seems about right.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:29 PM   #40
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Default Re: Without Kobe Bryant in the lineup, the Lakers would be ________.

They won 57 last year and on pace to win 58 this year.. I think they would win 48-52. Getting out of the first round doubtful as they wouldn't have homecourt and would be playing Dallas or OKC. It depends on how well Artest and Shannon step up with more shots available, how well they facilitate the offense through the bigs etc. Shannon can be a true chucker and I would have worries about giving him starter minutes.
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Still a legit contender in the west. Big front line, a couple of perimeter defenders/shooters... they're a championship built team.

50+ wins and a trip to the WCF seems about right.

so without kobe theyll beat okc and dallas?
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Fact:

Chicago without Pippen: 10 straight years without a winning season (above .500) from 1978-1987. 6 years without a winning a playoff series.

Chicago with Pippen: Never had a losing season (below .500) from 1988-1998, 6 championships and never failed to win a playoff series. The only exception is 2003-04 when he only played 23 games.

Fact:

Regular Season MVPs:
Jordan:5
Pippen:0


NBA Finals MVPs:
Jordan:6
Pippen:0

And on and on..... But I won't drag Pip's legacy into a bitter Stan debate.
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so without kobe theyll beat okc and dallas?

My post was best case scenario (peak). I could definitely see them getting past the first round (and yes I think they can still beat OKC without Kobe--last year he played his worst series in 3 years and they still won in 6).
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My post was best case scenario (peak). I could definitely see them getting past the first round (and yes I think they can still beat OKC without Kobe--last year he played his worst series in 3 years and they still won in 6).

yeah with home court
but kobe did drop 39 in gm 2
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