Draft Pick (formerly known as 5th Pick)

[kmart]

Looks like we beat the Nets

[Reef]

Originally Posted by kmart

Looks like we beat the Nets

Yup. Can't say I'm surprised. We really have to worry about the Milwaukee game because Bogut's out.

[T-Low]

Originally Posted by Reef

Yup. Can't say I'm surprised. We really have to worry about the Milwaukee game because Bogut's out.

No worries, Maggette always kills us...

[bokes15]

Originally Posted by T-Low

No worries, Maggette always kills us...

I hope so but we can't really count on a loss to a Bogut-less Milwaukee with nothing to play for. I'm keeping my fingers crossed though.

[Reef]

Kings won!!!!!!! One more loss for us and we're guaranteed 4th last at worst!!

[bokes15]

Originally Posted by Reef

Kings won!!!!!!! One more loss for us and we're guaranteed 4th last at worst!!

We will almost certainly lose against Miami. Especially if they end up needing that game to lock up the 2 seed. That Milwaukee game is the major worry. Washington closes out against Cleveland so if all goes well, we could have sole possession of that 3 spot.

[Toni]

The thing is.. this draft is gonna be so horrible I don't think it really matters if we draft 4th or 5th.

[T-Low]

Originally Posted by Toni

The thing is.. this draft is gonna be so horrible I don't think it really matters if we draft 4th or 5th.

I don't think it will be so much horrible. Draft picks 1-10ish seem to be proven players....It's just drafting our needs that is gonna hurt...

[Jballer]

Originally Posted by T-Low

I don't think it will be so much horrible. Draft picks 1-10ish seem to be proven players....It's just drafting our needs that is gonna hurt...

I disagree on multiple levels

Firstly folks the whole point of the ping pong balls lottery is so teams cant tank "guarenteed". 4th 5th 6th - we can still move around 3 places depending on how the balls drop out for all the teams in the lottery. A win here or there makes only a slight statistical difference in the odds of getting 1 over all and hardly means anything at all if a team (s) from behind leapfrog us moving us back.

Secondly in the "weakish" draft with no superstar - I think you should exactly draft by position; get either a solid competent pick where you need it (on this young team NOT where Derozan or Davis play). Bottom line is - even if you trade in the future for an upgrade - such young peices are incredibly valuable.

It is simply a matter of not taking on "another long term" project ; one that is out of sinq with the development curve you have in this young nucleus of players. You want that they can learn to win together at a young age.

You want the positional players to gell together so come contract renewal time you can determine who to keep - how to keep - and where you can risk a trade for an upgrade.

How often has Seb Talfir (spelling?) been moved around. Or even Damon Stod'mre in the past?? Both these players may in fact be examples of what is available at the PG but both in fact were important pieces to the right teams at one time or another.

Ohh well lets see what happens

At least we will get some new young blood to cheer or curse

[bokes15]

Sure, you're right that being ahead of a team doesn't guarantee you to receive a higher draft pick than them. But regardless, the more lottery balls the better. 3rd place gets 156 and 4th gets 104 which represents having a 15% chance vs. a 10% chance which to me is a pretty significant difference.

[bluerap]

^ also, if neither team gets a ball you still pick first.
I would much rather be cleveland than detroit right now, even though there are no guarantees.

I also think there is a big difference in this draft between top 3 (irving, williams, barnes) and 4th pick.

[Chamberlain]

Updated standings/remaining games:

Toronto:
22-58

April 11th- @Milwaukee
April 13th- Vs.Miami

Washington:
22-58

April 11th- vs.Boston
April 13th- @Cleveland

Sacramento:
24-56

April 11th- Vs.Oklahoma City
April 13th- Vs.LA Lakers


5. Sacramento 24-56
4. Washington 22-58
3. Toronto 22-58
2. Cleveland 17-63
1. Minnesota 17-63

[bluerap]

Originally Posted by Chamberlain

Updated standings/remaining games:

Toronto:
22-58

April 11th- @Milwaukee
April 13th- Vs.Miami

Washington:
22-58

April 11th- vs.Boston
April 13th- @Cleveland

Sacramento:
24-56

April 11th- Vs.Oklahoma City
April 13th- Vs.LA Lakers


5. Sacramento 24-56
4. Washington 22-58
3. Toronto 22-58
2. Cleveland 17-63
1. Minnesota 17-63

Thanks for this. It makes my life a little easier.

[Harrison_Barnes]

Originally Posted by bokes15

Sure, you're right that being ahead of a team doesn't guarantee you to receive a higher draft pick than them. But regardless, the more lottery balls the better. 3rd place gets 156 and 4th gets 104 which represents having a 15% chance vs. a 10% chance which to me is a pretty significant difference.

I agree with you 100%

I understand that we can still move backwards but why would I want to win any of these last two games and give myself a worse chance at a 1-3 pick? I honestly will be disappointed if we don't get Irving or Barnes in this draft.. even though there will be other decent players.. those two show the most promise and could easily be placed into our lineup.

[Reef]

Another top pick is returning to school. Wow. We are getting screwed.

http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider

Wow. I'm stunned RT @BaylorMBB Perry Jones III announced Monday he WILL RETURN to #Baylor for sophomore year

I read another report today that Barnes is most likely also returning to school. Just our luck.

My draft board now is:
1.Irving
2.Barnes (including him until it's official)
3.Williams (still has to declare)
4.Kanter
5.Valanciunas
6.Walker
7.Knight
8.T.Jones

If we don't get a top 4 pick (or top 3 if Barnes drops out), the whole tanking process will have been worthless. I don't even want to think what happens if Williams returns. The next draft is going to be insane though. We should really try to get a second first rounder in that one.