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Old 08-23-2012, 04:52 PM   #1696
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Two completely different scenarios. Chael volunteered to step in and face Jones.
Last time I checked Silva isn't scheduled to fight and didn't lose his opponent on 8 days notice.
And chael isn't suspend right now.
But you said it yourself, Sonnen accepted the fight. Meaning the offer was accepted by the UFC and Chael.

It still wouldn't make any sense if it'll happen.

Bottom line - Chael is coming off from a loss.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:53 PM   #1697
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honestly, they're both at fault. dana needs to stop making these 'one fight' cards where if something happens to the main event, the entire card is in peril. jones shouldn't turn down fights just because a guy is undeserving at the moment. no one likes when champions do that. he has the right do give his input, but he has to expect backlash. now the undercard guys all have to stop what they're doing and regroup.
He's the champ. He has nothing to gain by taking a fight on this short notice. And if sonnen ever does deserve a title shot it would be stupid to waste it now, without the proper build.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:58 PM   #1698
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Dana is coming off like a real bitch about this. He's completely throwing Jones under the bus and is calling Greg Jackson, a "fuckin' sport killer". If you didn't make the rest of the card so weak, then you could have just changed the ME, but since there's no other fight on the card close to being ME status, they had to cancel. Apparently, other fighters turned it down and only Sonnen was willing to step up (too bad he shouldn't have even been considered), but let's only get on Jones for turning down the fight? What about the other guys unwilling to step in?
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:04 PM   #1699
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I love how people are taking sides. UFC vs Jones. Honestly it has to do with injuries. Almost every division has been clogged up by injuries, steriod allegations and rematches. Its kind of disrespectful to Jones to gave him a guy who hasn't fought in the division. Jones stood up for himself the UFC should atleast be understanding if they are a professional company.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:11 PM   #1700
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Chael P light heavyweight champion after this forfeit. Undefeated and undisputed in 2 weight classes. GOAT.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:20 PM   #1701
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" UFC 151 will be remembered as the event Jon Jones and Greg Jackson murdered." - that's what UFC included in their official press statement.

Pretty terrible. Trying their hardest to villainize Jones and solely Jones and his camp to divert any bad attention away from ufc and Dana white.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:42 PM   #1702
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" UFC 151 will be remembered as the event Jon Jones and Greg Jackson murdered." - that's what UFC included in their official press statement.

Pretty terrible. Trying their hardest to villainize Jones and solely Jones and his camp to divert any bad attention away from ufc and Dana white.
Which is retarded because jones is the most marketable guy in the sport
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:50 PM   #1703
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But you said it yourself, Sonnen accepted the fight. Meaning the offer was accepted by the UFC and Chael.

It still wouldn't make any sense if it'll happen.

Bottom line - Chael is coming off from a loss.

trust me i dont think chael deserves a shot either.
but if UFC had the choice of cancelling an event or giving an undeserving fighter a title shot and keep the event alive. i think they would choose keeping the event alive.

if anderson silva was fighting someone in a main event and that fighter got injured, and it was 8 days away from the event. if nick diaz was not suspended and called dana white and asked to fight silva and everyone else declined.
trust me dana white would say yes if it meant saving the event and saving millions of dollars.

but it comes down to ufc putting all their eggs in one basket, and making a card that is composed of Main event + fillers. well i guess theres some other okay fights, but i think every card should ideally have a co main event that people can get hyped for (aka not ellenberger-hieron. or ellenberger-koscheck originally).
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:12 PM   #1704
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pros react (and it isn't pretty): http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/8/23...-151-cancelled

also a decent article here: http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/8/23...ce-guy-for-jon

did jones have the mma equivalent of lebron's decision?

main thing is jones said machida was high risk, low reward...then days later accepts a fight with him after refusing a fight with sonnen (who would be low risk, high reward). that sonnen fight might present itself later but still...sonnen on short notice without a training camp and moving up? who even think he makes it beyond 1-2 rounds? and as far as PPV draws, sonnen trumps machida easily, even with 8 days to hype.

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Old 08-23-2012, 07:15 PM   #1705
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:27 PM   #1706
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Lose-lose stuation for Jon "Bon" Jones. Sonnen is coming of a loss, and he doesn't deserve a title shot againts Jones. I still hope that Jones' camp will accept the challenge. I want to see someone end the MMA Career of Sonnen.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:35 PM   #1707
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Too late for that, he was given till this morning some time and he turned the fight down. Seems like it would be easy for him. They have him a soft ball fight to save the card and it was still too dangerous for him. Typical of Jacksons risk adverse mentality. Sucks since his first title shot came as a replacement against Shogun when everyone was crying that he didn't deserve it.
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He's the champ. He has nothing to gain by taking a fight on this short notice. And if sonnen ever does deserve a title shot it would be stupid to waste it now, without the proper build.


I completely agree.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:05 PM   #1709
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The people talking about what a draw sonnen is as a reason bones should have taken the fight are completely missing the point. The fact that bones vs sonnen could conceivably be a huge draw is why you don't hotshot it on such short notice to cover up for Dana whites stupidity.

Dana has done a great job getting UFC to the point it's at now but honestly they need to start seriously looking towards replacing him.
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The people talking about what a draw sonnen is as a reason bones should have taken the fight are completely missing the point. The fact that bones vs sonnen could conceivably be a huge draw is why you don't hotshot it on such short notice to cover up for Dana whites stupidity.

Dana has done a great job getting UFC to the point it's at now but honestly they need to start seriously looking towards replacing him.

it all depends on how sonnen transitions. if he struggles at LHW, the opportunity is lost. i still want to see the hendo fight...hopefully he can take a couple months off and we'll see it in the future.

joe silva also deserves blame since he's always touted as the matchmaker. i've always felt they should cut back on PPVs ever since the fox deal. they just don't have the depth to keep going at this pace and when there's a major injury, it can kill the card. injuries have hit hard this year.

oh well, nothing to do but wait for 152:

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