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Old 08-24-2012, 12:41 PM   #1741
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I've never seen someone who just lost, that got a title shot... THAT SHIT ONLY HAPPENS IN THE WWE MACHO MAN
Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:50 PM   #1742
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Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss
Edgar lost in a decision in a higher weight class in a fight that he probably won. Sonnen got kod ina lower weight class. Edgar also has a much bigger track record then sonnen who has a grand total of 0 impressive performances outside of beating Anderson silva for most of 5 rounds when he was doping and Andy was hurt. Sonnen isn't a top 10 lhw. You seriously wanna compare that to Edgar?

Also why vitor is in no way deserving of this fight, there is actually a path to victory for him. There isn't one for sonnen
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:02 PM   #1743
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Edgar lost in a decision in a higher weight class in a fight that he probably won. Sonnen got kod ina lower weight class. Edgar also has a much bigger track record then sonnen who has a grand total of 0 impressive performances outside of beating Anderson silva for most of 5 rounds when he was doping and Andy was hurt. Sonnen isn't a top 10 lhw. You seriously wanna compare that to Edgar?

Also why vitor is in no way deserving of this fight, there is actually a path to victory for him. There isn't one for sonnen
watcha talking about? I agreed with you about Sonnen being undeserving, and the reason I only pointed Edgar out was to answer if there has ever been a person getting a title shot after a loss.

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yup Sonnen got Mad overrated when he lasted 5 rounds with AS and gave him the fight of his life, people tend to forget the dude lost 3 times to Jeremy Horn and lost to Maia all via Triangle, he also lost to Griffin and the other Brazilian dude who was actually on drugs and mentally unstable at the time.

But I have to admit Sonnen did improve, his win over Bisping and Stann were nice, but basically Sonnen is a good fight hyper. Very good wrestling average at everything else.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:04 PM   #1744
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Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss
Miguel Torres is a pretty well known fighter. The ufc just hates him.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:34 PM   #1745
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Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss

First of all.. they had reasons for Couture & he was also fighting for Vacant's.

And Frankie Edgar? He was the former champ, it was enough excuse for them to give Frankie a rematch, cuz some could say it was a close fight, which it really wasn't.. but they could/would exaggerate and milk that anyways..

I thought they went too far with Brock.. when they gave him a title shot when he was 1-1 in the UFC and fought Randy.
But i'm not bitchin about that.. why are you bringin those shit up? (FYI, Brock was already a champion before he fought Mir for the 2nd time).

I'm bitching about Dana giving Chael a title shot, when he knows that Chael JUST LOST TO ANDERSON SILVA. When you lose to someone in a title fight, you gotta go back to the end of the line or at least face another top contender for you to have a title shot again, like Cain Velasquez.


I see it like this... If no one knows you and you've been winning so far and the UFC gives you a title shot, then you lose? You're gonna go back to the Prelims lol.

But If you're well known, you gotta win a couple 1-3 fights consecutively, maybe? Then you'll have your title shot.

But if you're a SUPERSTAR.. just win 1 or 2 fights consecutively, and you'll get your title shot.

Anyways, I just couldn't believe that they even considered Chael F*cking Sonnen.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:56 PM   #1746
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First of all.. they had reasons for Couture & he was also fighting for Vacant's.

And Frankie Edgar? He was the former champ, it was enough excuse for them to give Frankie a rematch, cuz some could say it was a close fight, which it really wasn't.. but they could/would exaggerate and milk that anyways..

I thought they went too far with Brock.. when they gave him a title shot when he was 1-1 in the UFC and fought Randy.
But i'm not bitchin about that.. why are you bringin those shit up? (FYI, Brock was already a champion before he fought Mir for the 2nd time).

I'm bitching about Dana giving Chael a title shot, when he knows that Chael JUST LOST TO ANDERSON SILVA. When you lose to someone in a title fight, you gotta go back to the end of the line or at least face another top contender for you to have a title shot again, like Cain Velasquez.


I see it like this... If no one knows you and you've been winning so far and the UFC gives you a title shot, then you lose? You're gonna go back to the Prelims lol.

But If you're well known, you gotta win a couple 1-3 fights consecutively, maybe? Then you'll have your title shot.

But if you're a SUPERSTAR.. just win 1 or 2 fights consecutively, and you'll get your title shot.

Anyways, I just couldn't believe that they even considered Chael F*cking Sonnen.
nah i was just sighting example when you said it never happened, didnt really want to argue
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:34 PM   #1747
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Sonnen has won 5 of 7 rounds against the best fighter on the planet, but he's not very good.
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:35 PM   #1748
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nah i was just sighting example when you said it never happened, didnt really want to argue
Well it did, but they had reasons... But just putting Chael in front because it draws more money? I disagree with that.. It's So Unprofessional...
B!TCH!! KEEP DIGGING IN THE 205 Division and give those bitches a title shot!
It would have been better if the stakes were higher, say If Chael loses.. He'll retire?


Anyways, I'm just glad Jones rejected it. I don't mind Machida fighting another top contender. Is Rashad fighting anyone?
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Sonnen has won 5 of 7 rounds against the best fighter on the planet, but he's not very good.
IT DOESN'T MATTER. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT, HE LOST.

You have to be Chael Sonnen fan
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IT DOESN'T MATTER. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT, HE LOST.

You have to be Chael Sonnen fan

What kind of sick fvck isn't a Sonnen fan!?

Also that was more directed to the dude saying Chael isn't very good.
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What kind of sick fvck isn't a Sonnen fan!?

Also that was more directed to the dude saying Chael isn't very good.

LEARN HOW TO QUOTE NEXT TIME.. SHIT
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What kind of sick fvck isn't a Sonnen fan!?

Also that was more directed to the dude saying Chael isn't very good.


This guy's opinion is beyond biased..

It's been reported numerous times that Chael enjoys snapping into a slim jim before & after every fight.
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Miguel Torres is a pretty well known fighter. The ufc just hates him.
well known?...to hardcore fans....

most fans never heard of Miguel Torres
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well known?...to hardcore fans....

most fans never heard of Miguel Torres
Which is a shame. He was considered one of the best p4p in the world at one point.

As for Jon jones, that was a b!tch move by him and his camp.
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