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Old 10-17-2012, 05:13 PM   #1936
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dana just said all the top contenders turned down a fight with jones. ok, i guess that makes a little more sense.

Jones not worried about Sonnen's wrestling. "He was a freakin' [Olympic] alternate." "Who cares if he gets me down, he's getting submitted."

ya, just an olympic alternate....as if that's nothing noteworthy


no way Chael takes Jones down...

MMA Wrestling is not the same as standard wrestling...
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:16 PM   #1937
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What do you guys think of Brock Lesnar's MMA run?
He went 5-3 and was on a 4 winning streak with wins against frank mir, heath herring, randy courture and shane carwin.

For me, yeah he was a bit overhyped but I was always pumped up for his fights because he was always exciting too watch! I think his run was pretty impressive for someone who barely had MMA training and was a WWE superstar half of his life.


pretty good for a guy who basically took up MMA later in his athletic prime as just a hobby.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:24 PM   #1938
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no way Chael takes Jones down...

MMA Wrestling is not the same as standard wrestling...

if you read my previous posts, i'm mostly in agreement. even if he is able to take jones down, how does chael win? he'll get subbed before he can ride out a decision. i really can't see him keeping top control.

i just thought it was funny that jones shrugged off being an olympic alternate as if it was nothing. you're a damn elite wrestler if you become an olympic alternate.

might as well say, 'he only won a freakin' bronze medal'.

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Old 10-17-2012, 05:36 PM   #1939
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if you read my previous posts, i'm mostly in agreement. even if he is able to take jones down, how does chael win? he'll get subbed before he can ride out a decision. i really can't see him keeping top control.

i just thought it was funny that jones shrugged off being an olympic alternate as if it was nothing. you're a damn elite wrestler if you become an olympic alternate.

might as well say, 'he only won a freakin' bronze medal'.

I hink jones is viewing it from this perspective...

"I (Jones) am in my Peak...I am arguably the best overall Fighter in MMA....I also am a great wrestler....I have a much more deverse style then Sonnen"

Imagine if Lebron and Durant were on the same team....and the won 5 NBA Titles in a row....

but then they (thier team) had to play the Argentine National team(after ARG won a gold medal)....they would understand that they were a good team...But Bron and Durant know they(there team) are just way better..

Sonnen is a great wrestler...Jones is a great wrestler...

but Jones has proven to be a much better MMA Fighter...and shrugged off Chael Olympic history...just as Brons team would shrug off a Argentinian team.

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Old 10-17-2012, 05:54 PM   #1940
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just 5 months ago...

after jon jones DUI

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@jonnybones There is no growth without pain. Small price to pay for the lesson learned. Glad you are safe. #gotyourback
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:03 PM   #1941
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Jones is a better Mma wrestler than chael. This will get ugly
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:25 PM   #1942
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Jones is a better Mma wrestler than chael. This will get ugly


only true if you're judging him by his poor fights. he's looked as dominating a wrestler there is in MMA in his good ones...and i still don't think it was purely based on roids. i also think he could tire Jones out and win that way if Chael brings his A game and doesn't get caught.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:13 PM   #1943
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only true if you're judging him by his poor fights. he's looked as dominating a wrestler there is in MMA in his good ones...and i still don't think it was purely based on roids. i also think he could tire Jones out and win that way if Chael brings his A game and doesn't get caught.


yes he is a great wrestler and does dominate other opponents..

but not against someone like Jon Jones.

2 factors I'm basing my opinion on.

#1. Jones is a great wrestler also...and has never been taken down ....factor in fighting Rashad Evans, Matt Hammil, Jake O'Brien and Ryan Bader..all great wrestlers..

#2. Jones will have a huge reach advantage and athletic advantage(speed , quikness)..he can keep his range and still effectively hit Chael.

this will be an easy win for Bones....a tune up fight for possibly the Spider....

In no universe will Sonnen beat Jones or even hurt him.

but you never know.....it's never over even when it's over.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:18 PM   #1944
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only true if you're judging him by his poor fights. he's looked as dominating a wrestler there is in MMA in his good ones...and i still don't think it was purely based on roids. i also think he could tire Jones out and win that way if Chael brings his A game and doesn't get caught.

jones' takedown defense is better than silva's. chael's on the other hand is...somewhat mediocre for a wrestler. he's avoided 71% of takedown attempts and jones has avoided 100%. silva sits at a nice 81%.

sonnen is 59% successful in his takedown attempts. jones is 64% successful.

TD defense - jones
TD ability - jones
^ ties into grappling and wrestling overall

submission ability - jones
striking - jones
finishing ability - jones

i mean, it's just hard for me to see how chael wins this. he'd have to win via decision and jones has only gone to three decisions...all victories.

don't get me wrong, i hope it's a good battle. i hope somehow chael can keep him on the ground as we haven't seen jones on his back much. i'd like to see him face some more adversity.

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:26 PM   #1945
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dana just said all the top contenders turned down a fight with jones. ok, i guess that makes a little more sense.

I have a hard time believing that all the 'top contendors' really turned down a fight with Superbrat. What's that from- a short list of ONE guy who happens to be injured? Then there's the fact that it came out of Dana's mouth. Not a frequent source of factual information to begin with.

Having said that, should make for the most hilarious season of TUF, ever...
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:26 AM   #1946
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moreover, chael got to #1 contender fights by beating jim miller and okami. okami has struggled mightily with wrestlers. miller? well, i'll just let you look up his 'signature' wins.

It was his brother, Dan. I like the Miller brothers, but yeah, Dan just isn't that good of a win. Jim, on the other hand, would be a good win for a LW.

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who actually thinks chael has a chance? i give him less of a chance than vitor. even if he is able to get jones down, i don't see how he's able to keep him there. let's say he does...not like his gnp puts guys away. how does he win?

I don't know. It might be a bigger upset than Serra/GSP if it were to happen. At least Serra had power (he was known for his grappling, but he did have power). IMO, it would be a bigger upset, but I'm not sure if it would be Vegas-wise.

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i guess jones saying chael 'wasn't deserving' didn't matter much either. dude says one thing and does another, yet again. i guess now he's deserving despite not having any fights since.

He didn't say Chael was suddenly deserving.
"I think I'm over the fact of whether he deserves it or not, and I'm getting more realistic with the fact that the fans really want it."

"Does it de-legitimize the belt? I'm going to have to say (it does) in some ways," said Jones, who said a meeting with Dan Henderson was next on his list after Sonnen. "But in some ways it doesn't because this has nothing to do with the belt for me. This is more about putting him into irrelevance."

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dana just said all the top contenders turned down a fight with jones.

He's referring to UFC 151 when he asked people to take it on rather short notice. It also ignores the fact that there were a couple guys (Weidman is one off the top of my head) who said they would have taken the fight at 151 if they were asked.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:36 AM   #1947
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It was his brother, Dan. I like the Miller brothers, but yeah, Dan just isn't that good of a win. Jim, on the other hand, would be a good win for a LW.



I don't know. It might be a bigger upset than Serra/GSP if it were to happen. At least Serra had power (he was known for his grappling, but he did have power). IMO, it would be a bigger upset, but I'm not sure if it would be Vegas-wise.



He didn't say Chael was suddenly deserving.
"I think I'm over the fact of whether he deserves it or not, and I'm getting more realistic with the fact that the fans really want it."

"Does it de-legitimize the belt? I'm going to have to say (it does) in some ways," said Jones, who said a meeting with Dan Henderson was next on his list after Sonnen. "But in some ways it doesn't because this has nothing to do with the belt for me. This is more about putting him into irrelevance."



He's referring to UFC 151 when he asked people to take it on rather short notice. It also ignores the fact that there were a couple guys (Weidman is one off the top of my head) who said they would have taken the fight at 151 if they were asked.
To be fair as little as I think of chael, Weidman has absolutely no business in that conversation.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:06 PM   #1948
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:51 PM   #1949
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I love Dana but, he's a joke right now.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:33 PM   #1950
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Since this is a MMA related song should have a MMA related face palm.

Arrianey should just stick to being a ring girl or atleast do R rated films showing tits.
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