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Old 12-30-2012, 01:09 AM   #2491
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Those two looked like they were in a knife fight
Daaaamn what an uppercut
how do these ufc fighters withstand those punches?
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:11 AM   #2492
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That 1 punch changed everything. Took out everything from JDS but his heart. Hot damn what a fight.

He didn't gas out. THOSE PUNCHES FROM VELASQUEZ TOOK OUT HIS ENERGY.

JDS was staggered at the end of round 1 when he stood back up.


And I think Cain didn't wanna finish him early. I think he wanted to punish him for a bit.

GREAT FIGHT.

& Joe Lauzon +1 for heart.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:14 AM   #2493
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Those two looked like they were in a knife fight
Daaaamn what an uppercut
how do these ufc fighters withstand those punches?

Yeah, it pisses me off when people call some of the fighters pvssy or say they suck.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:18 AM   #2494
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well at least this makes light heavyweight a bit more interesting
since Cormier will be moving down there now
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:50 AM   #2495
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This fight was alot closer than most people think.
Cain fought at a godly pace, Anderson Silva would lose if he fought against a guy that takedown attempt pace and punching power. JDS has a strange ability to get back onto his feet like a cat. He also can stuff multiple chains in a takedown attempt. It reminds me of a old Chuck Liddell. People seem to not count takedown defense once the fighter is taken down once.

I think the third fight is gonna be alot closer than people think especially if JDS closes that gap in cardio. This was the modern version of the classic "Ground and Pounder" vs "Sprawl and Brawler"
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:52 AM   #2496
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WTF? Cain was bombing him with punches... it takes away your energy bruh
This was halfway through the 1st round before he took too much damage. He was already dropping his hands and looking tired after stuffing the takedowns and just Cain chasing him around the cage.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:03 AM   #2497
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At least now we know Overeem probably would have merked JDS.
Don't be ridiculous. JDS' quick boxing would be a nightmare for overeem.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:09 AM   #2498
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Don't be ridiculous. JDS' quick boxing would be a nightmare for overeem.
Same JDS that was outstruck by a wrestler?

Overeem's striking involves kicks/knees along with punches, he is the more dangerous guy standing. JDS's boxing alone won't be a nightmare for a K-1 champ, especially when he doesn't have to worry about takedowns or the ground game of JDS. When this fight happens next year, you will see the difference between their striking game.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:16 AM   #2499
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Same JDS that was outstruck by a wrestler?

Overeem's striking involves kicks/knees along with punches, he is the more dangerous guy standing. JDS's boxing alone won't be a nightmare for a K-1 champ, especially when he doesn't have to worry about takedowns or the ground game of JDS. When this fight happens next year, you will see the difference between their striking game.
Its not that simple.
Cain's pace of takedowns is what opened JDS up to strikes. He had to lower his hands to defend the constant threat of takedown. The same would happen to Overeem if Cain fought the way he fought tonight. In the first fight Cain didnt show any real threat of the takedown which he why he got KTFO.

JDS vs Overeem would be more of a straight forward stand up battle.

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Same JDS that was outstruck by a wrestler?

Overeem's striking involves kicks/knees along with punches, he is the more dangerous guy standing. JDS's boxing alone won't be a nightmare for a K-1 champ, especially when he doesn't have to worry about takedowns or the ground game of JDS. When this fight happens next year, you will see the difference between their striking game.
he was outstruck by a wrestler because he fought a defensive gameplan. a relentless wrestler that's the #1 HW in the world. that must be recognised.

junior's dealt with plenty of other wrestlers in the past and destroyed them.

overeem is fairly slow and lumbering in his movement, while JDS has the best in-and-out movement in the game. he wouldn't stand there and try to trade with overeem, he would make select shots and counters and pick him apart over the course of the fight. even werdum, a much inferior striker to JDS, was too quick and effective for overeem.

and no way -- NO WAY -- would overeem be able to keep JDS on the ground.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:23 AM   #2501
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Idk what Dana's plan is right now, he may not want to make a 3rd fight after that domination. After Overeem handles Bigfoot, he may get a title shot or a fight with JDS for the #1 contender match.

Either way, I don't think he will get knocked out like in his LHW days, it will be a classic kickboxer vs boxer match up. If Alistair uses his kicks and controls the distance wisely, I got him winning by decision, especially if JDS shows up in the same shape he did today. It will be a close fight imo.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:29 AM   #2502
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JDS - overeem would be a great #1 contender's match. everyone wants to see it, either way. fascinating fight IMO.


only thing is, cain will probably need to fight someone in the meantime unless he reaggravated one of his injuries tonight.
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JDS - overeem would be a great #1 contender's match. everyone wants to see it, either way. fascinating fight IMO.


only thing is, cain will probably need to fight someone in the meantime unless he reaggravated one of his injuries tonight.
Feed Werdum to Cain, lets see his sub defense lol.

I guess Cormier is moving down now, him vs Jones would be amazing. He may be the only guy that could put him on his back, but he will also be the smallest guy Jones has ever fought. Biggest reach/height advantage, even worse than vs Rashad.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:33 AM   #2504
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I think Cain vs Werdum would be a interesting matchup. Werdum would welcome the ground game with open arms. Werdum is also turning into a scrappy striker thanks to his reach.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:35 AM   #2505
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I guess Cormier is moving down now, him vs Jones would be amazing. He may be the only guy that could put him on his back, but he will also be the smallest guy Jones has ever fought. Biggest reach/height advantage, even worse than vs Rashad.
that would be a great fight.

DC's small, but he's built like a truck. he's also quick as a cat, with excellent reaction times. if anybody could catch JJ with a big shot, i think he could.

he also counters his lack of height very nicely with his patience, waiting for his tall opponents to give him that one little opening he needs.
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