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Old 02-24-2013, 01:37 AM   #2536
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Yeah Alpha Male is usually known for the guillotine. He just switched it up to a different choke tonight
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:01 AM   #2537
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Aldo is refusing to fight Pettis... interesting

Oh wow. I mean I kinda dont blame him though. All this weight class jumping for title shots is just getting out of hand. Chael jumps up to LHW and gets a shot. Frankie drops down to FW and gets a shot. Pettis sees that and drops down to FW to butt in line and get a shot instead of taking his LW one. Rashad almost drops to MW and gets an immediate shot. Jones may jump to HW and get a shot.

If UFC is gonna keep this whole "ranking system" thing going, they're gonna have to be more strict with the policy about switching weight classes because it's not fair to the guys in the division that someone from another class can just cut in line and basically put their division on hold for another half a year, so top contenders will have to fight someone else and possibly lose their spot in the pecking order. Pettis beat top LIGHTWEIGHTS to earn a LIGHTWEIGHT title shot. Why should get to automatically fight for the FW belt when he's never fought a single FW? It's not fair to the current contenders. Weight classes exist for a reason
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:36 AM   #2538
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This girl has WMMA on lock. Only fighter that can dethrone her is Cyborg and that fight's not gonna happen.


Yeah I just read on Sherdog that Cyborg just signed a multi-fight deal with Invicta FC. I think that fight can happen, but not this year. Cyborg is pound for pound the best Women's MMA fighter in my opinion, but it's all up to Dana and Zuffa.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:23 AM   #2539
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Yeah I just read on Sherdog that Cyborg just signed a multi-fight deal with Invicta FC. I think that fight can happen, but not this year. Cyborg is pound for pound the best Women's MMA fighter in my opinion, but it's all up to Dana and Zuffa.
Cyborg is roided up though and shouldn't be allowed to fight(nor should reem)



As for the weight class jumping, it depends on the situation. I have no problem with an all time great champ(that distinction seems kinda pointless with how new Mma is) moving up and being given a chance to fight for the title in a higher weight class. Ie I wouldn't mind bones fighting Cain, Andy fighting bones, gsp fighting Andy or aldo fighting bendo but other than that I don't think people should be given immediate title shots unless there is just no one who deserves one(see current 185 position)
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:01 AM   #2540
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Ok fight card the Hendo/Lyoto fight was a bit on the boring side due to the massive edge in speed Lyoto had. Didn't watch the main event not really a fan of womens combat sports.

Court vs Neer was good, so was one of the prelim fights I can't think of now
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:43 PM   #2541
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My stance still stands even though it was the best fight tonight but it was hard to see Rousey's face the way it was. Maybe as I get use to it, I will warm up to it.

Bermudez/Grice was a million times better.


As for Aldo, very odd, I didn't think I'd see Aldo ducking anyone, though maybe there's some other reason (maybe he's trying to get more money?).
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:13 PM   #2542
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Bermudez/Grice was a million times better.


As for Aldo, very odd, I didn't think I'd see Aldo ducking anyone, though maybe there's some other reason (maybe he's trying to get more money?).

He's refusing cuz he said he doesn't feel like Pettis should just be able to come down to his weight class (having never even won a UFC title) and get an immediate title shot. Dana apparently said he's taking the fight or "he won't like how this turns out"

And on another note Dana said after the PPV last night that he's "really close" to cancelling next month's title fight cuz Diaz is still skipping out on Primetime filmings and other press stuff. And now he said Nate is skipping Primetime shootings too. Apparently they've blown over $50,000 in paying film crews to show up and set up for the day only to have to pack up and leave.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:20 PM   #2543
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Oh wow. I mean I kinda dont blame him though. All this weight class jumping for title shots is just getting out of hand. Chael jumps up to LHW and gets a shot. Frankie drops down to FW and gets a shot. Pettis sees that and drops down to FW to butt in line and get a shot instead of taking his LW one.

Can you blame Pettis? Waiting for a title shot at LW hasn't worked out too well for him. What if Melendez and Henderson have a draw or a really close fight? Dana seems to love doing rematches at LW. I find it rather odd that Aldo didn't say anything about Edgar, who was on a 2-fight losing streak (losing to a guy that Pettis beat), but has a problem with Pettis? I liked DFW's comment - "I wouldn't want to face Pettis either."

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Pettis beat top LIGHTWEIGHTS to earn a LIGHTWEIGHT title shot. Why should get to automatically fight for the FW belt when he's never fought a single FW? It's not fair to the current contenders. Weight classes exist for a reason

Fair? Pettis has been screwed out of a title shot. Also, there's a difference between going up a division and getting a title shot and going down a division and getting a title shot. Though, I think Pettis is one of the very few people I don't have a problem with dropping down and getting a title shot in this circumstance.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:46 PM   #2544
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Cyborg is roided up though and shouldn't be allowed to fight(nor should reem)

That doesn't make any kind of sense to me. If Joe Blow out there makes 1 poor decision in his career, then he shouldn't be allowed to ever fight in the UFC? What about all the guys on TRT? Do they all get a 'Get Out of Jail Free' card? Dana was pissed with Overeem, but then changed his tune after they had a meeting afterwards, which kind of says a lot to me (usually it's not good to be in Dana's doghouse). If you get rid of every guy who has ever been busted for anything, then you're going to be getting rid of quite a number of people and probably a number of people who would surprise you. What about guys who have 'cheated' in some other fashion? Get rid of them too? Does that include GSP even if it wasn't his fault? Nick Diaz? That's considered 'cheating'.

If a person passes his tests, whether it's Cyborg or Josh Barnett or anyone else, then they should be able to fight. You can't just deny someone because of something they did in the past. You can't just assume they're still on it and deny them or else that opens the door for accusations to be made against pretty much every single fighter.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:55 PM   #2545
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aldo - pettis is NOT comparable to sonnen - jones, belfort - jones, the last anderson silva one or even GSP - diaz... or a couple more silly ones i can't remember right now.

because it's a very good pure match-up and great fight for the fans as well. if aldo really truly doesn't like it, he's a lot stranger and more narcissistic than i ever imagined. my impression was always that he's a true pro and a sensible guy, but i've been known to be totally wrong before. :P

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anyway, glad i didn't spend the money or time on the fights last night but grateful for internet video. carmouche came through in a HUGE way for the UFC last night, and i hope dana can remove his head from his sphincter for a brief moment and let her know how very grateful he is (or should be).

also interesting to see chiesa persevere and good to see court not get robbed this time.

and henderson should STILL get the next shot against jones IMO. at least, over machida, anyway. SURE he'll get demolished, but jones needs to finish his collection of heads so he can get his ass over to HW, where it will finally get interesting for him. no way is gustafsson ready at this point... that's nothing but fool's gold at the mo.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:20 PM   #2546
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carmouche came through in a HUGE way for the UFC last night, and i hope dana can remove his head from his sphincter for a brief moment and let her know how very grateful he is (or should be).

Yeah he praised the hell out of her at the press conference last night and it sounded like she's gonna be getting a pretty damn big paycheck for this PPV

And as far as Pettis/Aldo, don't get me wrong i definitely want to see the fight, but I can also see how frustrating it must be for the other FW's to have not one but TWO lightweights come down and tie their champ up. I mean Frankie got his shot in January, and Pettis' isn't until August (meaning after that there probably won't be another title match until early 14 depending on how that fight goes). So basically two people from another division (one being Pettis who has already said if he wins that belt, he's gonna go back up to 155 and try to win the LW title too so who knows when he'll want to defend it) have the entire division tied up for well over a year. Leaves the natural FW's trying to figure out when/what fights to take that will leave them available when one of them actually gets a shot.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:35 PM   #2547
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So basically two people from another division (one being Pettis who has already said if he wins that belt, he's gonna go back up to 155 and try to win the LW title too so who knows when he'll want to defend it) have the entire division tied up for well over a year. Leaves the natural FW's trying to figure out when/what fights to take that will leave them available when one of them actually gets a shot.

That's their problem though. If a hugely talented guy can make 145 then he is considered a FW regardless of what he's been fighting at recently. If he can make the weight then what rules is he breaking? It shouldn't be Aldo's call on who is the most "deserving". And even if it was, he'd be wrong because Pettis is more deserving than guys like the Korean Zombie (as huge of a fan of his as I am), Swanson, Lamas or whoever else.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:41 PM   #2548
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Yeah like I said I definitely wanna see the fight. But I can also see why Aldo and the other FW's would have a problem with it. But like you said it's not Aldo's call. As amazing as he is, I hope he realizes he's not at GSP/Silva status where he can say what fights will and will not happen.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:10 PM   #2549
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Yeah he praised the hell out of her at the press conference last night and it sounded like she's gonna be getting a pretty damn big paycheck for this PPV
ah, okay... cool, cool.

it's getting to the point where i just assume every other action by dana is going to be the worst, most infantile action possible. but good to know he was a good guy about the deal this time.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:11 PM   #2550
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Another reason I don't have a problem is because Mendes, Korean Zombie and Lamas are all in the mix at FW, so this will give them time to sort which of those guys gets the next title shot. The Korean Zombie won't be available to fight 'til like July, Mendes has Guida next while Lamas has some mystery opponent in May. I'm guessing the mystery opponent will be Dennis Siver, maybe Nik Lentz or even someone like Frankie Edgar. Everyone else would be too far down the ladder for him to face, but maybe he's looking to face a lower opponent so it's lower risk for him.

Looks like Edgar wants Swanson next or possibly Siver.

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