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Old 03-03-2013, 01:05 AM   #2596
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Daaamn.

Retire Silva. Right there. On that note. In Japan where it all started.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:08 AM   #2597
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Nasty combo by Wand! Damn, I feel a bit better now...
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:18 AM   #2598
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Struve wanted to keep fighting , he wanted to take out a tooth that broke off that got stuck in his cheek. But His jaw was broken too, damn nasty
He got a huge heart. I remember his fight against Denis Stojnic, he was so bloody he could barely see. Denis was beating the crap out of him, but Stefan pulled of submission win in the end...
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:21 AM   #2599
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Lombard = a f*ckin idiot

You lost the first 2 rounds, you have him rocked on the feet in round 3 and you take him down and run the clock out...

He was pretty damn gassed, and I don't think Okami was ever really that hurt.


I'm really surprised Gomi lost the decision in Japan. I thought maybe a draw at worse.

Struve's gotta be kicking himself over that lost opportunity.
Wandy/Stann was crazy. Will Wandy retire on a high note like that, or will that tell him that he still has more?
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:24 AM   #2600
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What the... I don't understand what just happened. Struve wasn't covering up much and basically walked into the KO. It seemed like once he became tired, he became stupid too. There's no way Hunt should have won that fight. Strange.

He got rocked and was basically a deer in headlights
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:16 AM   #2601
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I wasn't able to watch the fights live, anyone have a link to Silva/Stann? I got to see Hunt/Struve on YouTube, but Silva/Stann was taken down.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:40 AM   #2602
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Epic KO by Wanderlei man is a living legend now doubt, but in saying that I would not be at all suprised if he was ethier on Hormone replacment therapy or gets done for PED's, he looked far more muscular and had similar speed to what he had back in the day and thats impossible after all the KO's hes taken and age. He was tank, ripped and moving faster than he was since he left Pride which raises an eyebrow as well as taking punches better and recovering quicker. Killer fight and mad finish I dislike Stann strongly since he always brings up that Marine crap like dude no on cares if you were a Marine but he came out and he put on a hell of fight himself.

Lombard exposed everytime he fights a top 10 fighter nothing new, the days of feasting on scrubs in Bellator could be back soon for him, and that guy who KOed Paulo Thiago lost rather easily to Kim

That was the first ever boring fight Diego has ever been in the UFC, the guy has only looked good for 1 round @155 and that was the first round against Clay Guida, he looked awful 2night and fought like a crap/slow version of Frankie Edgar rather than Diego Sanchez could it be cause he went back to Greg Jacksons?

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Old 03-03-2013, 05:30 AM   #2603
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Wandy didn't look that fast to me. He was kind of slow on a lot of the exchanges between the two and caught a number of times.

I don't see why people would hate Stann over the military thing. It's not worse than all the people who constantly praise Jesus as if Jesus wanted that person to brutally KO his opponent.

Lombard exposed against top 10 opponents? He lost a BS decision to Boetsch and a close decision (1 round to 2) to Okami by being outwrestled by a really strong wrestler, and if Lombard had any gas left then he probably KOs Okami in the 3rd. He doesn't have great cardio, so he probably shouldn't wait 'til the 3rd round to go all out.

Diego looked worried about Gomi's power and for good reason. I'm just surprised he won the decision. I guess his aggressiveness at the very end won it for him? I pretty much scored it a draw. All the media people gave it to Gomi: http://mmadecisions.com/decision.jsp?id=4057
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:37 AM   #2604
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Wandy didn't look that fast to me. He was kind of slow on a lot of the exchanges between the two and caught a number of times.

I don't see why people would hate Stann over the military thing. It's not worse than all the people who constantly praise Jesus as if Jesus wanted that person to brutally KO his opponent.

Lombard exposed against top 10 opponents? He lost a BS decision to Boetsch and a close decision (1 round to 2) to Okami by being outwrestled by a really strong wrestler, and if Lombard had any gas left then he probably KOs Okami in the 3rd. He doesn't have great cardio, so he probably shouldn't wait 'til the 3rd round to go all out.

Diego looked worried about Gomi's power and for good reason. I'm just surprised he won the decision. I guess his aggressiveness at the very end won it for him? I pretty much scored it a draw. All the media people gave it to Gomi: http://mmadecisions.com/decision.jsp?id=4057

Wandy looked way more athletic & muscular in that fight than he has in any of his others in the UFC, also you have to realise Stann is a extremely explosive athlete himself and Wandy was not far behind him in speed while throwing wider punches.

Lombard: 4 losses = Gono when he was good, Mousasi he lost easily getting control and did zero damage in that fight and could not deliver against two guys in Okami/Boetsch he should have blown out of the water with all his hype coming in. Hes lost 4 of 5 in Pride/UFC which were the best fight companies when he was in them.

Diego worried about Gomi's power? Hes take the biggest shots from Kampmann, Ellenberger, Penn & others who are far harder/faster/more accurate hitters than Gomi, the guy has seriously never looked good @155, while he may be to small @170 its his best weight.

Also Kenny Florian is HORRIBLE at commentary the guy dick rides one fighter till the end no matter what, he says punches land which only hit air the dude is 1/100 of the commentator of Joe Rogan.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:18 AM   #2605
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Wandy looked way more athletic & muscular in that fight than he has in any of his others in the UFC, also you have to realise Stann is a extremely explosive athlete himself and Wandy was not far behind him in speed while throwing wider punches.

Lombard: 4 losses = Gono when he was good, Mousasi he lost easily getting control and did zero damage in that fight and could not deliver against two guys in Okami/Boetsch he should have blown out of the water with all his hype coming in. Hes lost 4 of 5 in Pride/UFC which were the best fight companies when he was in them.

Diego worried about Gomi's power? Hes take the biggest shots from Kampmann, Ellenberger, Penn & others who are far harder/faster/more accurate hitters than Gomi, the guy has seriously never looked good @155, while he may be to small @170 its his best weight.

Also Kenny Florian is HORRIBLE at commentary the guy dick rides one fighter till the end no matter what, he says punches land which only hit air the dude is 1/100 of the commentator of Joe Rogan.
wandy still looked smaller considering it was his return to 205 look at the jacked up pride fights even the one with Jardine , he looks smaller now, he just fought smarter and picked his shots and even then he got dropped, the issue was Stann played into the exchange game and paid for it, we got a exciting fight Stann even admitted he became to aggressive and paid for it
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:27 AM   #2606
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wandy still looked smaller considering it was his return to 205 look at the jacked up pride fights even the one with Jardine , he looks smaller now, he just fought smarter and picked his shots and even then he got dropped, the issue was Stann played into the exchange game and paid for it, we got a exciting fight Stann even admitted he became to aggressive and paid for it

Holy shit I didn't know they fought @205, I take back everything I said than, I thought they were fighting @185 (since both he and Stann are technically MW's at this point). Since I thought it was @185 please disregard everything I said about Wandy/Stann fight in the previous 2 posts, I was thinking man Wandy looks freaking huge @185 compared to his previous fights where he looked so drained but now that I know its @205 than the UFC has to make Sonnen vs Wandy afrer Bones quickly subs him. My bad I didn't watch the weigh-ins nor have I been reading much about the UFC lately so I have no clue they fought 1 weight class above.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:34 AM   #2607
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Sanchez vs Gomi was sick, fights like these shouldn't go to decision.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:50 AM   #2608
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Lombard: 4 losses = Gono when he was good, Mousasi he lost easily getting control and did zero damage in that fight and could not deliver against two guys in Okami/Boetsch he should have blown out of the water with all his hype coming in. Hes lost 4 of 5 in Pride/UFC which were the best fight companies when he was in them.

The Mousasi and Gono fights were from 7 years ago and aren't relevant. Why should he have blown Okami out of the water? Okami is one of the top guys in the division, and only someone like Anderson Silva would be considered to do that. I don't put much stock in other people hyping fighters, I go by my own opinion. I wouldn't expect Michael Chandler to come in and decimate the UFC's LW division.

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Diego worried about Gomi's power? Hes take the biggest shots from Kampmann, Ellenberger, Penn & others who are far harder/faster/more accurate hitters than Gomi, the guy has seriously never looked good @155, while he may be to small @170 its his best weight.

What else could it be? I have no idea what his game plan was. He had 0 aggression until the very end of the fight. You think their game plan was to pretty much do nothing for no reason? Gomi's always been considered one of the hardest punchers for the smaller weight classes and some think he's the hardest P4P puncher in MMA. ESPN put him at 8: http://espn.go.com/extra/mma/photos/...rs-mma-history

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Also Kenny Florian is HORRIBLE at commentary the guy dick rides one fighter till the end no matter what, he says punches land which only hit air the dude is 1/100 of the commentator of Joe Rogan.

I will agree here. Florian has a ways to go as a commentator. I don't know what he's watching sometimes.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:06 AM   #2609
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The Mousasi and Gono fights were from 7 years ago and aren't relevant. Why should he have blown Okami out of the water? Okami is one of the top guys in the division, and only someone like Anderson Silva would be considered to do that. I don't put much stock in other people hyping fighters, I go by my own opinion. I wouldn't expect Michael Chandler to come in and decimate the UFC's LW division. .
Fair call, but imo Lombard would have been a favourite in both the fights he lost in the UFC plus Okami has not really looked that good since the Silva fight.


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What else could it be? I have no idea what his game plan was. He had 0 aggression until the very end of the fight. You think their game plan was to pretty much do nothing for no reason? Gomi's always been considered one of the hardest punchers for the smaller weight classes and some think he's the hardest P4P puncher in MMA. ESPN put him at 8: http://espn.go.com/extra/mma/photos/...rs-mma-history.
I think its 2 things potenitally
1. The weight cut @155 didn't go well and Diego knew he couldn't go out there full energy, he has never had quiet the same gas tank @155 as he did @170, he gassed badly against Clay after the first round by his standerds.

2. Greg Jackson: does he make fighters smarter/better most the time yes, does he make them more exciting not really. Look at Migel Torres few fights before he got cut, Clay Guida going around in circles against Gray Maynard. Greg is a good coach but Diego is at his best when hes attacking and sometimes attacking recklessly hes simply not skilled or talented enough to fight any other way, Is Gomi a hard puncher yeah but hes not the same punches he was in Pride and honestly do you think anyone can KO Deigo Sanchez?
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:21 AM   #2610
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He got rocked and was basically a deer in headlights
The thing that confused me was all those times that he got hit, then covered up but still stayed right in front of Hunt. Even covering up, giving Hunt a standing target to wail on must've done some damage, not to mention the couple body shots he took. Struve wasn't moving as much as he should but I guess he could've been really tired.
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