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Old 02-05-2013, 02:57 PM   #2731
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Overeem won the first two rounds THEN gassed heavily and proceeded to get dominated. So your both right.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:00 PM   #2732
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I wonder how he will take the weight cut, should be a great fight tho the two most explosive kickers in MMA.
According to Dana White, Pettis doesn't even cut to make 155, so 145 shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:23 PM   #2733
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Overeem won the first two rounds THEN gassed heavily and proceeded to get dominated. So your both right.

Thats pretty much describes every single lose he had in Pride as well he was getting the better of Chuck, Shogun, Nog in the first round every fight gassed and got KO'ed.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:00 PM   #2734
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Goooodddddddd damn please tell me someone else just saw that knockout on TUF. The guy that got knocked out got taken to the hospital and had short term amnesia...
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:20 PM   #2735
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Goooodddddddd damn please tell me someone else just saw that knockout on TUF. The guy that got knocked out got taken to the hospital and had short term amnesia...

Yeah that was just brutal, from a style point of few I prefered the Barbosa on Etiem one but from a impact/aftermath point of view that was just as nasty as it gets. Good to see afterwards he was real concerned about the other guy rather than acting hell tough.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:57 AM   #2736
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Goooodddddddd damn please tell me someone else just saw that knockout on TUF. The guy that got knocked out got taken to the hospital and had short term amnesia...
Just watched that sh!t. Hall looks like a legit prospect.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:04 AM   #2737
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:55 AM   #2738
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Goooodddddddd damn please tell me someone else just saw that knockout on TUF. The guy that got knocked out got taken to the hospital and had short term amnesia...






I still think the Etim / Barbosa KO was nastier but damn what a KO
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:15 AM   #2739
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Just watched that sh!t. Hall looks like a legit prospect.

His 2 career losses have come to two top 10 fighters in Weidman and Kosta Phillapou and theres no shame in losing to ethier.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:23 AM   #2740
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I'm waiting for someone to explain how Alistair Overeem wins the first two rounds on EVERYONE'S score card, yet people are saying Overeem got dominated. Is the fact that Alistair is just so damn unlikable making them lie about what took place?
i blame it on the grill.

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:55 PM   #2741
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Goooodddddddd damn please tell me someone else just saw that knockout on TUF. The guy that got knocked out got taken to the hospital and had short term amnesia...

I forgot it was on yesterday, but checked out the clip of it. Brutal. One of those times where you're like, 'Oh shit, that guy got knocked the **** out!', but then you're quickly concerned for the guy's well-being.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:04 AM   #2742
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nasty knockout
pretty scary seeing the way he was breathing when he was laid out on the mat.

and then later when mazzagatti tells the team he should be okay and start remembering things in a couple hours... damn
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:07 AM   #2743
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nasty knockout
pretty scary seeing the way he was breathing when he was laid out on the mat...
i can't remember seeing a knockout victim straining for breath like that before. man, that was disturbing. it was like watching all his higher brain function shut down and the most primitive parts (that probably go back to fish or amphibians) struggling to keep operating.

some journalist was just saying that cella will be fine and should be up and around in a week. uh, no, dude... he'll never be quite the same again. brain trauma is cumulative.

as much as i ragged on AO the last few days, that dude has been knocked out ten times now and is STILL amusing and well-spoken in interviews. he's the exception to the rule (so far) and does not have a glass jaw IMO. nobody in the world can take clean shots from bigfoot and last very long, and AO might have taken twice as many as most, right there.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:57 AM   #2744
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as much as i ragged on AO the last few days, that dude has been knocked out ten times now and is STILL amusing and well-spoken in interviews. he's the exception to the rule (so far) and does not have a glass jaw IMO. nobody in the world can take clean shots from bigfoot and last very long, and AO might have taken twice as many as most, right there.

If you look at Reem, the majoirty of his knockouts are due to conditioning, in Shogun x2, Nog x2, Chuck and a couple others he was winning all those fights and taking some good shots than as soon as his cardio went he was done and as well like you said hes taken some shots e.g Shogun leap into the guard punch and Bigfoot combo which no one could take. His chin is not the problem its his cardio always has been. If you have a crap chin you don't get up from being knocked down two times by Badr Hari. So I agree with you on that point

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i can't remember seeing a knockout victim straining for breath like that before. man, that was disturbing. it was like watching all his higher brain function shut down and the most primitive parts (that probably go back to fish or amphibians) struggling to keep operating

Something similar to that KO was the one when if you remember Matt Riddle KOing that BJJ guy with no stand up at the TUF try outs and the guy kept moaning hell hard that was gross.
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If you look at Reem, the majoirty of his knockouts are due to conditioning, in Shogun x2, Nog x2, Chuck and a couple others he was winning all those fights and taking some good shots than as soon as his cardio went he was done and as well like you said hes taken some shots e.g Shogun leap into the guard punch and Bigfoot combo which no one could take. His chin is not the problem its his cardio always has been. If you have a crap chin you don't get up from being knocked down two times by Badr Hari. So I agree with you on that point
yea, that's his rep and storyline of most of his losses (from what i've seen)... but i thought he didn't gas terribly hard this fight. being mostly off the juice this fight, he was visibly less cut and even slightly flabby around his torso. which actually probably helped him last longer. muscle tissue being an energy burner and fat being a fuel, after all.

honestly, does he really need all that muscle? he's still super-strong as is and should avoid bringing down the ceiling on his cardio at all costs, i would think.

jack slack did a nice breakdown of why the reem lost, if you haven't seen it. looks like jackass was right:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/2/6/...ysis-judo-chop


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Something similar to that KO was the one when if you remember Matt Riddle KOing that BJJ guy with no stand up at the TUF try outs and the guy kept moaning hell hard that was gross.
that's rude. and no, i didn't see it. i tend to read a handful of MMA sites every single day but pick my spots to watch. maybe because i'm from a family of doctors or something, but it's pretty much impossible for me to sit through a full card or watch as often as most, even though i do love the sport. but i don't want to see video of shogun, edgar, etc in 10+ years when they're starting to go junior seau and stuff.
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