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Old 06-06-2013, 12:22 PM   #3661
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Just because condit isn't known as a 'runner' doesn't mean he didn't do it in one fight. What a dumb argument.
perhaps, but i was responding to the even dumber argument "If Diaz hadn't pushed there would have been no fight." that someone posted up above.

no no no, jackson and crew's gameplan was obviously to do whatever it took to win. cesar, being a total idiot, did not prepare nick (or his other top fighters) correctly. then again, nick tends to do whatever the hell he feels like, so maybe blaming cesar is a red herring and i'm the idiot here.

anyway, diaz' face definitely looked the worse for wear to me, so i have no doubt he was getting damaged. i think you do need to face reality, tho-- condit won fair and square under the rules that exist, not whatever he-man desires that many MMA fans suffer from. and the object in fighting is to hit without getting hit. beating your chest and mean-mugging will only take you so far against elite competition.
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:59 PM   #3662
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perhaps, but i was responding to the even dumber argument "If Diaz hadn't pushed there would have been no fight." that someone posted up above.
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Well.. there wouldnt have. As it stood, Condit was perfectly fine with just leg kicking him all match and never pressing or trying to win the fight. Diaz couldve tried to match him and long distance strike the whole match with no chance of either opponent coming close to finishing.. and that wouldve made the fight even worse/more unwatchable. Im not saying we need brawls.. but when a guy is blatantly RUNNING, like sprinting to the other side of the cage, its a bit ridiculous.

The goal in an MMA fight should be to knock your opponent out, or submit him. Playing for the scorecard solely is like ref baiting for FTs in basketball and not playing to put the ball through the hoop. It should be a secondary representation of how well you performed ie how close you came to the main goal of a fight.

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Old 06-06-2013, 03:02 PM   #3663
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The goal in an MMA fight should be to knock your opponent out, or submit him. Playing for the scorecard solely is like ref baiting for FTs in basketball and not playing to put the ball through the hoop. It should be a secondary representation of how well you performed ie how close you came to the main goal of a fight.
as long as you're clear on the source of your own frustration, i have nothing really to add.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:26 PM   #3664
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GSP's car was stolen last night..... Those damn aliens

...This dude has got to be freaked out right now. haha
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:21 PM   #3665
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If Diaz hadn't pushed there would have been no fight. They would've been leg kicking each other in the center standing 10 feet apart at all times. Condit couldn't stand with him he had to strike and literally run to the other side of the cage whenever an actual exchange began. It was ridiculous.

It's not Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots. Avoiding damage is a smart thing to do, but I guess intelligently fighting to you is to stay trapped in the corner and let Diaz tee off on Condit.
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Even with condit running Diaz won 1,2 and 5
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Oh God, not 1, 2 and 5 again...
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The fight where Diaz was an idiot, failed to adapt and stuck to a losing gameplan for an entire 5 rounds?


adapt?.....you mean if Diaz also runs away from Condit and Throws a leg kick and runs away .....he could have outpointed him/avoided contact/damage and won the fight!!!

YAY! Fighting smart!......



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It's official: Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson at UFC 165 in September

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It's official: Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson at UFC 165 in August
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It's official: Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson at UFC 165 in September


I hope Alexander worked on his takedown defense
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:15 PM   #3673
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it's pointless IMO. gus is still developing; not at jones' level yet. teixeira would have been the far better and more interesting choice.

anyway, it's all just treading water until jones finally decides to hit HW. he's way better than anyone at LHW, despite being tested a little bit here and there.
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The thing I'm curious about is once Jones goes to HW, how do they handle the LHW title? Does he just hold onto it til someone that might possibly be able to challenge him comes along? (And I honestly don't think that happens in the next 4-5 years)...does he vacate it and they have two top guys fight to see who the new champ is? It's a weird position because guys like GSP and Silva who are dominant, at least they're older and might hang it up soon. But Jones is still young as hell and has already cleaned his division out of legit contenders.
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I see Gus taking advantage of Jones glass toe.Gus via foot stomps.
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