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Old 01-04-2015, 01:01 AM   #5221
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Months ago I said that Jones' reach would be too much for Cormier to overcome. Well, DC got inside and it still didn't matter. Jones is a douche but he is as impressive an athlete as you'll see in MMA.
People underrate his wrestling but he is the best one at LHW. You gotta beat him with striking and takedown defense, like Gus almost did. Trying to outwrestle him is pointless.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:01 AM   #5222
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funny how people said that DC will throw jones like a rag doll.. he didnt even had a take down... my goodness...
The guy came in well-prepared Cormier had to use the rest of his strength to forcefully throw Jones down when he probably already knew he lost to save his face a bit.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:01 AM   #5223
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The fact that Cormier worked that hard specifically on trying to get a takedown and only achieved it at the tail end with zero positive results... that's a testament to Jones' incredible takedown defense.

Cormier is not exactly Cael Sanderson, but he "only" lost to him 8-4. That's a world class wrestler and Jones countered everything he had.

Maybe not a crowd pleasing event, but if you appreciate the intricacies of wrestling and how good Cormier is at getting guys on the ground, that's damn impressive work by Jones.

Tip 'o the cap. Btw, I would have still loved to see Sanderson compete in the UFC or some variation. It obviously takes more than just wrestling in MMA, but it is hard to imagine Jones staying on his feet with that guy in the Octagon.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:02 AM   #5224
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funny how people said that DC will throw jones like a rag doll.. he didnt even had a take down... my goodness...
I never understood how people thought that would happen. People sometimes forget how huge and athletic Jones is for a LHW.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:03 AM   #5225
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Jon Jones is the GOAT.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:09 AM   #5226
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Jones vs Gus II before he moves up to HW. Please!

i wanna see it but i don't know if gus can duplicate that performance. jones will def be more prepared to deal with his striking

and yes, jones is well on his way to goat status. man, what kills me is that this doesn't even really pave the way for a rematch. i mean, jones decidedly won whether you think it was 3-2 or 4-1
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:13 AM   #5227
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funny how people said that DC will throw jones like a rag doll.. he didnt even had a take down... my goodness...
neither man hurt each other on the ground. takedown is nice and all, but it shouldn't be score more than actually doing damage.

in any case, DC obviously gave jones the best counter-wrestling he'd ever faced in MMA.


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He'd get rocked against those super heavyweights.
i think he *could* get rocked against the supers. just now he took about three rounds of powerful uppercuts against the former #3 fighter in the HW division.

jones has a tremendous chin it seems to me. if he used his speed against the supers, he could probably pull off the fedor approach against them with regularity. as in... if they never get to connect, their power starts to work against them as the fight wears on...
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:17 AM   #5229
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I never understood how people thought that would happen. People sometimes forget how huge and athletic Jones is for a LHW.


yes.. reason why gustaffson was able to take jones down because he is taller.. its not always the case but jones' wrestling isnt a joke as well.. he is just too gifted... I am thinking if he can also neutralize Velasquez if jones would go up to HW. .
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:28 AM   #5231
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Donald Cerrone not happy about the Myles Jury: "What the hell was that? That wasn’t a fight! What a joke, man."

there's more to it. he said jury clearly showed up to not even fight and the kicks were out of frustration.

ha, love cowboy. he wants to fight next month of course.

this f'n post fight PC ever gonna start?

jones basically said he's not considering ever moving to HW. it would have to be the 'perfect opponent and a lighter heavyweight'

Jon Jones: “I think if I really dug deep, I could make 185."

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Old 01-04-2015, 01:42 AM   #5232
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Jones needs to improve his boxing. He lacks flurries. Jones' overall striking is overrated. He's better when he wrestles.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:52 AM   #5233
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Jones needs to improve his boxing. He lacks flurries. Jones' overall striking is overrated. He's better when he wrestles.


that's jones base, wrestling.. people seem to forget that because he is also quite good in striking... try to remember the matt hamill fight.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:59 AM   #5234
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postfight finally starting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55MWWfPfZN8
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Old 01-04-2015, 02:01 AM   #5235
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that's jones base, wrestling.. people seem to forget that because he is also quite good in striking... try to remember the matt hamill fight.

Yes i know, his striking is "just" flashy. During the Machida fight he was getting schooled by Lyoto on the feet until he went back to his wrestling, fight's over, Same with Alex, he got exposed for having a weak boxing defense. Hamill fight should've been an easy win until he goes for 12 - 6 elbows which resulted him being dq. He isn't a natural striker, he can be flashy but that's it.

I don't see anyone from LHW beating Jones except Alex Gustafsson.

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