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Old 10-28-2011, 12:10 AM   #571
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Nelson makes the epic beard man not so epic. Nick now looks like the identical twin of nate.

Winner of nelson/crocop should fight mark hunto.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:08 AM   #572
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4 ufc events in 4 weeks The merging of the wec and the buyout of strikeforce increased the ufc roster significantly. They can do events every week for an entire year or so if they want to.
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:33 PM   #573
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can they really afford to, however?

revenue and salaries are a big part of this sport and PPV's have been down for the UFC this year. reflecting that reality, there's still a sizeable amount of pressure on every fighter to 1) win and 2) put on an entertaining fight, things that athletes in the major sports don't have to remotely worry about. on that note:

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The Nevada State Athletic Commission released the info on fighter salaries for UFC 137 this morning. Nick Diaz was the top earner at the event, making $200,000. Nick's opponent B.J. Penn came in next at $150,000, while Cheick Kongo and Brandon Vera both collected healthy six-figure paydays as well. Here's the rundown of the whole card:

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Nick Diaz: $200,000 (no win bonus)
B.J. Penn: $150,000

Cheick Kongo: $140,000 (includes $70,000 win bonus)
Matt Mitrione: $10,000

Roy Nelson: $40,000 ($20,000 win bonus)
Mirko Filipovic: $75,000

Scott Jorgensen: $33,000 ($16,500 win bonus)
Jeff Curran: $8,000

Hatsu Hioki: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
George Roop: $8,000

Donald Cerrone: $54,000 ($27,000 win bonus)
Dennis Siver: $27,000

Bart Palaszewski: $28,500 ($10,000 win bonus)*
Tyson Griffin: $25,500*

Brandon Vera: $120,000 ($60,000 win bonus)
Eliot Marshall: $15,000

Ramsey Nijem: $20,000 ($10,000 win bonus)
Danny Downes: $4,000

Francis Carmont: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
Chris Camozzi: $8,000

Clifford Starks: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
Dustin Jacoby: $6,000

*Griffin gave up 25% of his purse to Palaszewski for missing weight. There was no actual fine since the contract was re-drawn up before the fight.
This doesn't include the performance bonuses that were handed out after the card, in which Diaz and Penn won an additional 75k each for fight of the night, Donald Cerrone won 75k for submission of the night, and Bart Palaszewski won 75k for knockout of the night. Obviously these numbers don't include any other discretionary bonuses handed out by the promotion either.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/10/3...-100k-mma-news

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that may seem like a lot of dough, but remember that most UFC fighters only fight about 2-4 times a year and unlike NBA players, for example, have to pay for their gym and coaching fees.

nick diaz famously sulked that he couldn't afford to pay boxing coaches leading up to the penn fight. not saying that really mattered to the fight itself, but it's another example that not even the top athletes in MMA make close to the average money that athletes in MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL and many soccer leagues make.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:26 AM   #574
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They don't disclose all of their pay.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:28 AM   #575
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They don't disclose all of their pay.
examples and links?
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:45 AM   #576
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top fighters usually get pay per view share % and other compensation packages

for instance.. ufc 126 silva vs belfort

salaries reported to commission were:
silva $200,000
belfort $275,000

i dont think anyone will believe that belfort actually made more than silva

machida asked for "anderson silva money" to step into fight rashad evans.. so its definitely a substantial amount when added all up. since machida had a higher reported salary at ufc 129 when he faced couture than silva did at ufc 126

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when randy couture was in contract talks with ufc in 2007, there was a leak of ppv cut info... you can read it here. also mentions and speculates how much gsp made at ufc 129

http://www.mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fig...ollar-man.html

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Old 11-01-2011, 01:53 AM   #577
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Saw this on Wikipedia. Anyone know if both these fights have actually been announced to be on the same card?

UFC 143 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Announced bouts
Welterweight Championship bout: George St. Pierre (c) vs. Nick Diaz[1]
Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen[2]
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:55 AM   #578
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Theres also the fact that they have sponsors. Mma guys dont make a ton relative to other sporte but the top guys do well
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:55 AM   #579
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Saw this on Wikipedia. Anyone know if both these fights have actually been announced to be on the same card?

UFC 143 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Announced bouts
Welterweight Championship bout: George St. Pierre (c) vs. Nick Diaz[1]
Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen[2]

id say gsp vs diaz is pretty much a lock

and silva/sonnen is a good bet too.. its gonna be their superbowl event (nfl superbowl same weekend)

but i could see them trying for silva/sonnen at ufc 142 in brazil.. that would be two stellar main events back to back
and of course promoting would be tougher if you put both on the same card.

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Old 11-01-2011, 02:02 AM   #580
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That would set up gsp silva perfectly if they are ever going to do it
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:17 AM   #581
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but i could see them trying for silva/sonnen at ufc 142 in brazil.. that would be two stellar main events back to back
and of course promoting would be tougher if you put both on the same card.

In Brazil Sonnen would never make it to the fight alive
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:36 PM   #582
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anthony johnson moving up to middleweight... facing vitor belfort at ufc 142 in brazil

didnt expect that
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:22 PM   #583
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anthony johnson moving up to middleweight... facing vitor belfort at ufc 142 in brazil

didnt expect that
Nice!
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:38 PM   #584
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...when randy couture was in contract talks with ufc in 2007, there was a leak of ppv cut info... you can read it here. also mentions and speculates how much gsp made at ufc 129

http://www.mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fig...ollar-man.html
excellent, thanks. repped.

although to be honest, it doesn't really change any of the points i was bringing up. the UFC is still struggling a little and is still nowhere near other sports in popularity or revenue. the average fighter is still under a lot of pressure and still doesn't make much money from the sport after fees. the biggest stars make a little more than the listed revenues but it's not that much more, and still doesn't come close to the stars in other sports.

i'm not saying i'm happy about any of that- i definitely hope it improves across the board. MMA fighters work their asses off and put more of themselves on the line for mediocre compensation than just about any other sport i can think of. maybe rugby players would be close. *shrug*
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:24 PM   #585
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excellent, thanks. repped.

although to be honest, it doesn't really change any of the points i was bringing up. the UFC is still struggling a little and is still nowhere near other sports in popularity or revenue. the average fighter is still under a lot of pressure and still doesn't make much money from the sport after fees. the biggest stars make a little more than the listed revenues but it's not that much more, and still doesn't come close to the stars in other sports.

i'm not saying i'm happy about any of that- i definitely hope it improves across the board. MMA fighters work their asses off and put more of themselves on the line for mediocre compensation than just about any other sport i can think of. maybe rugby players would be close. *shrug*

It's still a fairly new sport, and it didn't really take off until TUF. This article estimates that Lesnar made over 6 million for just 2 fights
http://thewellversed.com/2011/04/23/...on-dollar-man/
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