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Old 08-24-2012, 11:52 AM   #1411
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So where is all the hate for machida, rua and the like for refusing a fight when they would have much more to gain and less to lose on a longer time frame? And jones offered to accept chael on the 22.
Rua cant fight because he's not medically cleared to even train fool. He was just in a war with Vera, Machida would have been the logical choice but when Machida stepped up to the plate last time against Jones he got submitted the f@ck out, he wants a full camp. Whats weird is why the heck they choose Vitor and not Sonnen?
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:54 AM   #1412
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Vitor is better than sonnen for one and they didn't want to irk Mandalay bay by having this fight after canceling an even there
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:00 PM   #1413
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Rua cant fight because he's not medically cleared to even train fool. He was just in a war with Vera, Machida would have been the logical choice but when Machida stepped up to the plate last time against Jones he got submitted the f@ck out, he wants a full camp. Whats weird is why the heck they choose Vitor and not Sonnen?
He got caught with a standing guillotine.. it wasn't like Jones was dominating the whole fight.


AND PEOPLE!!! SONNEN DOESN'T DESERVE A F*CKING TITLE SHOT!!
STOP ASKING WHY THEY'RE PICKIN THIS AND THAT OVER CHAEL!

Anyways, Machida doesn't know who he's training for now. Since Dana said he has to fight another Top Contender now...
The system is so F***** up right now just because of a 1 fight.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:08 PM   #1414
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He got caught with a standing guillotine.. it wasn't like Jones was dominating the whole fight.


AND PEOPLE!!! SONNEN DOESN'T DESERVE A F*CKING TITLE SHOT!!
STOP ASKING WHY THEY'RE PICKIN THIS AND THAT OVER CHAEL!

Anyways, Machida doesn't know who he's training for now. Since Dana said he has to fight another Top Contender now...
The system is so F***** up right now just because of a 1 fight.
he was winning round one, got blasted with a elbow I believe in Round 2 got staggered and submitted standing up which is rare because its hard to pull from that angle. Wether we like it or not Jones annihilated Bader,Shogun,Machida and Rashard.

Another thing I find weird is why didnt they just offer to Gustafson? Why get someone from MW?

Yes because the UFC is always about who deserves it more.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:10 PM   #1415
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What's sonnens best win? Michael bisping?
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:15 PM   #1416
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Just in case it hasn't been posted yet...

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Old 08-24-2012, 12:15 PM   #1417
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So where is all the hate for machida, rua and the like for refusing a fight when they would have much more to gain and less to lose on a longer time frame? And jones offered to accept chael on the 22.
I can't blame Machida and Shogun for not accepting.

Both have already lost to Jones once and, to me, it's a surprise that they're back in the conversation for a title shot so quickly. They both fought recently and Shogun didn't exactly come out unscathed from the Vera fight. In all likelyhood, this would be their last shot at the LHW title and to go into that against a monster like Jones on relatively short notice? I know I'd want to be as prepared as possible. I don't think it's fair to penalize them.

The whole Jones/Sonnen thing, I don't know what to think of all that. Who knows what's really true in all those talks?
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:16 PM   #1418
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What's sonnens best win? Michael bisping?
yup Sonnen got Mad overrated when he lasted 5 rounds with AS and gave him the fight of his life, people tend to forget the dude lost 3 times to Jeremy Horn and lost to Maia all via Triangle, he also lost to Griffin and the other Brazilian dude who was actually on drugs and mentally unstable at the time.

But I have to admit Sonnen did improve, his win over Bisping and Stann were nice, but basically Sonnen is a good fight hyper. Very good wrestling average at everything else.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:25 PM   #1419
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People get title shots all the time they don't deserve. Who cares?
I've never seen someone who just lost, that got a title shot... THAT SHIT ONLY HAPPENS IN THE WWE MACHO MAN
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:26 PM   #1420
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I can't blame Machida and Shogun for not accepting.

Both have already lost to Jones once and, to me, it's a surprise that they're back in the conversation for a title shot so quickly. They both fought recently and Shogun didn't exactly come out unscathed from the Vera fight. In all likelyhood, this would be their last shot at the LHW title and to go into that against a monster like Jones on relatively short notice? I know I'd want to be as prepared as possible. I don't think it's fair to penalize them.

The whole Jones/Sonnen thing, I don't know what to think of all that. Who knows what's really true in all those talks?
I dont have any problem whatsoever with them waiting for the fight to make sense for them. That's what they should do but it's also what jones did and he's getting hammered for it. You can't hammer him without hammering them too.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:29 PM   #1421
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When Brock comes back, why don't you give him a title shot?


Since it's SUCH a big draw


F*** THIS
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:41 PM   #1422
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I've never seen someone who just lost, that got a title shot... THAT SHIT ONLY HAPPENS IN THE WWE MACHO MAN
Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:50 PM   #1423
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Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss
Edgar lost in a decision in a higher weight class in a fight that he probably won. Sonnen got kod ina lower weight class. Edgar also has a much bigger track record then sonnen who has a grand total of 0 impressive performances outside of beating Anderson silva for most of 5 rounds when he was doping and Andy was hurt. Sonnen isn't a top 10 lhw. You seriously wanna compare that to Edgar?

Also why vitor is in no way deserving of this fight, there is actually a path to victory for him. There isn't one for sonnen
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:02 PM   #1424
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Edgar lost in a decision in a higher weight class in a fight that he probably won. Sonnen got kod ina lower weight class. Edgar also has a much bigger track record then sonnen who has a grand total of 0 impressive performances outside of beating Anderson silva for most of 5 rounds when he was doping and Andy was hurt. Sonnen isn't a top 10 lhw. You seriously wanna compare that to Edgar?

Also why vitor is in no way deserving of this fight, there is actually a path to victory for him. There isn't one for sonnen
watcha talking about? I agreed with you about Sonnen being undeserving, and the reason I only pointed Edgar out was to answer if there has ever been a person getting a title shot after a loss.

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yup Sonnen got Mad overrated when he lasted 5 rounds with AS and gave him the fight of his life, people tend to forget the dude lost 3 times to Jeremy Horn and lost to Maia all via Triangle, he also lost to Griffin and the other Brazilian dude who was actually on drugs and mentally unstable at the time.

But I have to admit Sonnen did improve, his win over Bisping and Stann were nice, but basically Sonnen is a good fight hyper. Very good wrestling average at everything else.
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Frankie Edgar? Not after a loss but Randy Coture would get title shots right of the bat, Brock Lesnar got his shot after just beating Mir and Herring.

UFC or particularly Dana White make fights sometimes based of what will earn the best money. Same with why didnt the UFC cut Dan Hardy who was on a 4 fight losing streak yet cut former champ Miguel Torres after 1 loss
Miguel Torres is a pretty well known fighter. The ufc just hates him.
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