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Old 06-30-2012, 03:37 AM   #1456
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There's still the TRT issue.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:55 PM   #1457
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There's still the TRT issue.
Which is a beaucoups weird issue as i understand it. I mean, apparently when a guy starts taking testosterone for any legit or semi-legit reason at all, his testes permanently go in to reduced production mode and he's pretty-much forced to take the stuff the rest of his life. Which is maybe part of why so many pro wrestlers are in such dreadful shape during what should be their gravy years of hoisting fishing poles on Lake Placid. *shrug*

For Sonnen and a bunch of well-known names, what it seems to really come down to is a way to turn their 30-yr old T production in to the same as a 21-yr old. Too many doctors are willng to sign off on that scrip, but shouldn't someone else be willing to put their foot down, like Roy Nelson? Did you see what he pledged to do to fix this whole issue?

Not sure how you feel about the issue, but I kind of like how the issue is being tackled by the fighters themselves.

Agree / disagree / don't care?

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Old 07-02-2012, 07:25 AM   #1458
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I found this article interesting: http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/...onfuse-us-even
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:37 AM   #1459
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those are 90% just cliches, though. if you actually watch fedor's last three fights, he's clearly re-emphasized patient striking and the mindset of not over-committing himself, such as he badly fell in to during his very late career. that is, the period of time not just including his three losses, but including his very sloppy wins against rogers and arlovski.


don't you think that can be attributed to him fighting Monson, Ishii and 40+ Rizzo? there aren't many modern HWs who wouldn't look like prime crocop on the feet against those guys.

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the dude is a laughing-stock right now in the MMA community. very few fans of any top HW today feel that if their guy lost to AO that it would be a legit loss. every online community response from non-knuckleheads (i.e., sherdoggers) i've read over AO's recent vow to test himself has been a consensus guffaw. in case you missed it, that is.
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now that's funny.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:17 PM   #1460
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HDUN...1&feature=plcp





ufc 148 pre fight press conference between silva and sonnen...

saturday cant come soon enough...

watch silva at the end, he's already trying to scrap, dana white holding back silva

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Old 07-04-2012, 04:25 AM   #1461
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HDUN...1&feature=plcp





ufc 148 pre fight press conference between silva and sonnen...

saturday cant come soon enough...

watch silva at the end, he's already trying to scrap, dana white holding back silva

So excited for this fight. I think i'm going to have to watch the countdown show again before Saturday
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:29 AM   #1462
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Sonnen has the pro-wrestling heel shtick down to a tee. I personally find him very annoying.

Anyway, cant wait for UFC 148, gonna be a bloodbath I think...
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:44 PM   #1463
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don't you think that can be attributed to him fighting Monson, Ishii and 40+ Rizzo? there aren't many modern HWs who wouldn't look like prime crocop on the feet against those guys.
i get how the level of competition was lower in his last three fights but i think that the names of his competition are a bit of a red herring. i mean, biggest thing i keyed on in his last three fights were his actual current speed and power. and amazingly, those two things in particular seemed remarkably similar to fedor's prime speed and power.

the real issue IMO came down to style- whether fedor chooses to be classic fedor, as in 'rock you on the feet and then jump in to your guard for the dramatic finish', or whether he chooses to pick you apart from outside (more boringly) with his extensive standing skill set. i mean, both werdum and hendo don't come off very well in the latter scenerio, you know? at least that's my opinion.

i think all it takes (for some fighters) is a difference in philosophy. for example, when anderson silva starting fighting as a counter-puncher, he more or less became invincible. his skillset didn't change that much, but his philosophy did. that was huge.

if carlos condit had chosen to play the diaz bros' game against nick, i think he very possibly would have gotten embarrassed, as good as a fighter as he is. he did the right thing IMO even though the macho-types put him down so much.

wanderlai silva would quite possibly have been an even better, even more successful legend if he'd utilised more selective aggression instead of aiming to please the fans. he wouldn't be as popular with less standing-and-trading of course, but with his overall talent he might have reversed a few blemishes on his record.

at the same time, i draw the line at guida versus maynard. i hope we can all agree on that one. there's got to be a point when a man stands up and acts like he's in an actual fight... FFS.

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Old 07-04-2012, 11:58 PM   #1464
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thanks. very interesting. gonna take me a while to digest...


random side-note: i liked finding out how many of the MMA presenters are also black belts. i mean, joe rogan's cover kind of got blown with his recent promotion, but buffer the announcer is apparently a BB and long-time MA practicioner, and dana white is some kind of belt in some system as well... i don't remember what. also, the referees, like herb dean and big john- most of them seem to be certified experts. not that it's unexpected, but this stuff is rarely mentioned for some reason.

only thing i know about scott coker is that he looks like he's a black belt on cheeseburgers of some kind.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:48 AM   #1465
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dana white is some kind of belt in some system as well... i don't remember what.

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Old 07-09-2012, 12:01 AM   #1466
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DW and alistair are buddies again, and it shouldn't be too long before we finally see JDS-overeem. (knock on wood)

Alistair Overeem: UFC heavyweight champ Junior Dos Santos is afraid to fight me
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:14 AM   #1467
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So who is everyone interested in seing Anderson fight next assuming he stays at middleweight. Hector Lombard could be interesting if he looks good in his UFC debut, but I'd like to see him fight Cung Le. Not because Le is the 2nd best MW or I think he'll beat Silva but it's the only intersting fight I could see just because Le has such a different style than anyone else. I have no interest in seing Munoz or Bisbing fight Silva, they'll get destroyed.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:23 AM   #1468
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Depends on who wins in the upcoming fights: Lombard/Boetsch and Weidman/Munoz.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:33 PM   #1469
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whoa...



two more pics at bottom of article:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/29610/stri...body-issue.mma
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:37 PM   #1470
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OH yes....
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