Is it me, or does the youth (under 30) of today have half the heart or drive to go towards better opportunities as people of this earth from the previous thousand years maybe? Maybe I'm just delirious but I feel like I've read of times in history were if you wanted to be more than your parents had achieved you were expected to go out and seek more. But I see people today that just let the smallest things demotivate them.
"I have no cell phone"
"I don't know anyone"
"I have no money"
"There's no guarantees"
"My parents were terrible to me"
"My history haunts me"
Some of these may have some validity to a persons lack of success. But forget success for a minute, it seems most don't even try. Is it really so strange that if you have nothing that you could just hit the road and try to gain as much as possible? I mean, have humans not done this very thing during much more dangerous times?
I just see so many people that have something to blame for their lack of attempts at life when they are in reasonably good to great health. Has this been the case throughout history or simply now that people are under-appreciative of our natural attributes (health, youth, free knowledge)?
Human beings are materialistic. Or at least we've trained ourselves to be that way. We care too much about things that in the end when we're on our death bed, we won't give a damn about.
people in the US are spolied IMO...and complain about everything...get depressed about everything...
we need stuff to complain about...if there isn't anything then we will create something...
if everything was perfect we would be bored...
i agree, but i live in a developed country outside the us and its the same
im 18 and i know few people who know what they want to do in life, and few are motivated to work hard to get what they want, so many people say they will start working hard later
Is it me, or does the youth (under 30) of today have half the heart or drive to go towards better opportunities as people of this earth from the previous thousand years maybe? Maybe I'm just delirious but I feel like I've read of times in history were if you wanted to be more than your parents had achieved you were expected to go out and seek more. But I see people today that just let the smallest things demotivate them.
"I have no cell phone" "I don't know anyone"
"I have no money"
"There's no guarantees"
"My parents were terrible to me"
"My history haunts me"
Some of these may have some validity to a persons lack of success. But forget success for a minute, it seems most don't even try. Is it really so strange that if you have nothing that you could just hit the road and try to gain as much as possible? I mean, have humans not done this very thing during much more dangerous times?
I just see so many people that have something to blame for their lack of attempts at life when they are in reasonably good to great health. Has this been the case throughout history or simply now that people are under-appreciative of our natural attributes (health, youth, free knowledge)?
i would say those bold are legit complaints. Yeah you can say compared to 3rd world countries and such they may not be, but in a way some of those would apply for even them, just to a greater extent.
i would say those bold are legit complaints. Yeah you can say compared to 3rd world countries and such they may not be, but in a way some of those would apply for even them, just to a greater extent.
Yep.
I would never attack a person via Full Metal Jacket Drill Sergeant "STOP WHINING" if those were the statements.
What IS unacceptable though is wasting time worrying about if other's like you, or trying to find loophole's as to why your neighbors richer than you, or complaining about your weight and not doing sh!t about it.
But as for gratitude. Most of the college folks I associate with are pretty grateful and appreciative of their lives. I don't know about average folks, but keep in mind as US citizens we work harder (less vacations), have less loved ones, are less connected/social within our local society, eat foods that cause us to be moodier [transfats, flourinated water], are exposed to some of the worst xenoestrogens/chemicals in the world, hit up with constant radiation via media outlets are entrapped in a constant ratrace with messages/standards that are humble most, and fed fairytales about finding true loves and "being whatever we want to be" since birth amongst others. Those conditions alone would cause a good deal of grumpiness. Compare it to friggi primal societies; where Daddy Xobile! and Momma Hatsepshut told you from the get go that Life was tuff, here's wut u gotta do, and bang bang choo choo train u dead by 40. U could still enjoy pure, unadulterated nature and u had close ties with kinship. Most of the immigrats I know love this nation to deaths and pieces, but hanging around with some of its citizens for so long puts u in a frame of groany-groan-groan.
Happiness ain't the thing that sells Don Draper products; it's the f*cking Greek word for "strange."
With that said, I would not hesitate to play dictator and unleash strict punishments for people who engage in too much nagging, whining, and b!tching. The fear would invigorate mosts' lions, and the lack of that destructive behavior would lead to more productivity.
To make this a bit political.. why wouldn't people be unappreciative and not as hard working today? The government is a big part of it.
(Many who know my posts are saying... How can he blame THIS on the government, too? The governments not the only reason for our lower work ethic, but I figured I'd tackle that side of the discussion. I would however suggest that they're the largest reason for the lower work ethic. This is meant to only apply to the US.)
1- They take every ones money via insane taxes/inflation. How much incentive can you have to work if half your paycheck is gone every week? So you try to save up your money instead, but inflation and artificially low interest rates make that impossible. You say screw it, I'll just spend my money.. but everything costs more.
If you're a business owner, all the regulations on business make it less fun to operate your business. All the taxes give you less profit. All the depleted savings slows investment and therefore business growth.
Before the taxes and inflation got TOO out of control.. one member of a household could work a 9-5 while A- Supporting his family B- Saving for retirement and C- Having some money to spend on the side.
Why is that impossible today? Is it just random chance? Is that just how things happen? No, it's like that today because the government prints money like it's going out of style while taxing us to death.
2- The government also hands out so much "free" money that it takes away incentive to work. Why work when I can be on section 8, collect unemployment, get food stamps, and maybe sell some bud and I'm good? I know a few people who literally do that, and have never worked a 9-5 in their life. Why would they? It's a good life.
Lol living on section 8 is not a good life. Its adequate and you can survive but iits far from good. Where does personal accountability come into this?
I agree we are spoiled. As is the rest of the world.
Well, most of the world. I think the people that complain about things like that need to go live in places like Somalia or Sudan if they want to know how bad life can really be.
Lol living on section 8 is not a good life. Its adequate and you can survive but iits far from good. Where does personal accountability come into this?
The governments not the only reason for our lower work ethic, obviously personal responsibility should factor in. But I think it's overstated compared to how the government affects peoples work ethic..
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Originally Posted by Jailblazers7
Lol living on section 8 is not a good life. Its adequate and you can survive but iits far from good.
It's not so bad in all cases. I have some family members who work crappy 9-5's, and can hold down a crappy apartment. I have other family members who lounge around all day and collect government money.. and they have to stay in a social services-designated motel instead. Is that so bad?
Let me ask you this... Do you not think the cost of taxes - and the hidden cost of inflation - discourages people from working as hard? Are people just robots who should work their hardest no matter what... because having a work ethic is just so grand?
Lol living on section 8 is not a good life. Its adequate and you can survive but iits far from good. Where does personal accountability come into this?
Depends on how you look at it. I was white, living in section 8 housing with my mother until I was 19 in a crime infested neighborhood of mostly African Americans.
While it's a much worse place than I lived now, it's tons better than living on the streets. I was thankful to have a root over my head, food, warm clothes, etc. I guess the downside is worrying about getting robbed, watching people kill each other over stupid shit, and walking casually on the street while people piss into the street gutters on the edge of the street/sidewalk without consideration for anyone else.
On average, are we unappreciative?
