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Old Yesterday, 12:39 AM   #1
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"Something startling is happening to middle-aged white Americans. Unlike every other age group, unlike every other racial and ethnic group ... death rates in this group have been rising, not falling."

The big new killers of middle-aged white folks? Alcoholic liver disease, overdoses of heroin and opioids, and suicides. So wrote Gina Kolata in The New York Times of a stunning study by the husband-wife team of Nobel laureate Angus Deaton and Anne Case.

Deaton could cite but one parallel to this social disaster: "Only H.I.V./AIDS in contemporary times has done anything like this."

Middle-aged whites are four times as likely as middle-aged blacks to kill themselves. Their fitness levels are falling as they suffer rising levels of physical pain, emotional stress and mental depression, which helps explain the alcohol and drug addiction.

But what explains the social disaster of white Middle America?

First, an economy where, though at or near full employment, a huge slice of the labor force has dropped out. Second, the real wages of working Americans have been nearly stagnant for decades.

Two major contributors to the economic decline of the white working-class: Scores of millions of third-world immigrants, here legally and illegally, who depress U.S. wages, and tens of thousands of factories and millions of jobs shipped abroad under the label of "globalization."

Another factor in the crisis of middle and working class white men is the plunging percentage of those who are married. Where a wife and children give meaning to a man's life, and to his labors, single white men are not only being left behind by the new economy, they are becoming alienated from society.

"It's not surprising," Barack Obama volunteered to his San Francisco high-donors, that such folks, "get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them..."

We all have seen the figure of 72 percent of black children being born out of wedlock. For working class whites, it is up to 40 percent.

A lost generation is growing up all around us.

In the popular culture of the '40s and '50s, white men were role models. They were the detectives and cops who ran down gangsters and the heroes who won World War II on the battlefields of Europe and in the islands of the Pacific.

They were doctors, journalists, lawyers, architects and clergy. White males were our skilled workers and craftsmen -- carpenters, painters, plumbers, bricklayers, machinists, mechanics.

They were the Founding Fathers, Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Hamilton, and the statesmen, Webster, Clay and Calhoun.

Lincoln and every president had been a white male. Middle-class white males were the great inventors: Eli Whitney and Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell and the Wright Brothers.


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They were the great capitalists: Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller, Henry Ford and J. P. Morgan. All the great captains of America's wars were white males: Andrew Jackson and Sam Houston, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee, U.S. Grant and John J. Pershing, Douglas MacArthur and George Patton.

What has changed in our culture? Everything.

The world has been turned upside-down for white children. In our schools the history books have been rewritten and old heroes blotted out, as their statues are taken down and their flags are put away.

Children are being taught that America was "discovered" by genocidal white racists, who murdered the native peoples of color, enslaved Africans to do the labor they refused to do, then went out and brutalized and colonized indigenous peoples all over the world.

In Hollywood films and TV shows, working-class white males are regularly portrayed as what was once disparaged as "white trash."

Republicans are instructed that demography is destiny, that white America is dying, and that they must court Hispanics, Asians and blacks, or go the way of the Whigs.

Since affirmative action for black Americans began in the 1960s, it has been broadened to encompass women, Hispanics, Native Americans the handicapped, indeed, almost 70 percent of the nation.

White males, now down to 31 percent of the population, have become the only Americans against whom it is not only permissible, but commendable, to discriminate.

When our cultural and political elites celebrate "diversity" and clamor for more, what are they demanding, if not fewer white males in the work force and in the freshman classes at Annapolis and Harvard?

What is the moral argument for an affirmative action that justifies unending race discrimination against a declining white working class, who have become the expendables of our multicultural regime?

"Angry white male" is now an acceptable slur in culture and politics. So it is that people of that derided ethnicity, race, and gender see in Donald Trump someone who unapologetically berates and mocks the elites who have dispossessed them, and who despise them.

Is it any surprise that militant anti-government groups attract white males? Is it so surprising that the Donald today, like Jess Willard a century ago, is seen by millions as "The Great White Hope"?


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White people...not as privileged as you think.
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Pat is pro-Trump and has always been right.
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Paging Knoe Itawl, paging Knoe Itawl!!!


I thought it was hatred of blacks that was killing white people?
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whites whining about not enough privilege

this is really good
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This article is such a load of horseshit
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whites whining about not enough privilege

this is really good



Truly, a weak era for the White man. Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis are rolling over in their graves.
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Or, your attestations of "privilege" are showing themselves to be completely non-factual--the product bigotry and hatred--rather than any kind of dispassionate analysis of the facts. Ignore it all you like, but it is a complete contradiction to portray white people as massively privileged when the white working class (i.e. those without money, without "privilege") is evidently having a harder time of things than any other group. Even when they are dying at alarming rates, when life-expectancy is plunging like no other demographic, and they are succumbing to the nihilism of suicide and drug-abuse, this bigotry-based fantasy is allowed to perpetuate itself with impunity.

Meanwhile, affirmative actioned dumb black bimbos from the burbs are running riot around college campuses demanding everyone else pay lip service to what a terrible persecuted minority they are. Ah, but the white working class kid, who measured above the spoiled (wealthy, upper-middle class) black bimbo by every available metric, but was denied a place to fit an affirmative action quota, is the one who is "privileged."

You only need to see how these people behave around campus to see that it is they who are privileged; they frequently do and get away with disruptive and rule-breaking behaviour because of their clear privilege and special treatment. Privilege is about money and family, and not skin-colour, in this day and age. Pretending otherwise is contrary to all known facts. In fact, blacks have one privilege that white males don't have (and which they share with women), in that they can be both rich (i.e. massively privileged) and pretend to be a victim of societal injustice at the same time. That's called having your cake and eating it too, and i'm amazed people put up with it.
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Or, your attestations of "privilege" are showing themselves to be completely non-factual--the product bigotry and hatred--rather than any kind of dispassionate analysis of the facts. Ignore it all you like, but it is a complete contradiction to portray white people as massively privileged when the white working class (i.e. those without money, without "privilege") is evidently having a harder time of things than any other group. Even when they are dying at alarming rates, when life-expectancy is plunging like no other demographic, and they are succumbing to the nihilism of suicide and drug-abuse, this bigotry-based fantasy is allowed to perpetuate itself with impunity.

Meanwhile, affirmative actioned dumb black bimbos from the burbs are running riot around college campuses demanding everyone else pay lip service to what a terrible persecuted minority they are. Ah, but the white working class kid, who measured above the spoiled (wealthy, upper-middle class) black bimbo by every available metric, but was denied a place to fit an affirmative action quota, is the one who is "privileged."

You only need to see how these people behave around campus to see that it is they who are privileged; they frequently do and get away with disruptive and rule-breaking behaviour because of their clear privilege and special treatment. Privilege is about money and family, and not skin-colour, in this day and age. Pretending otherwise is contrary to all known facts. In fact, blacks have one privilege that white males don't have (and which they share with women), in that they can be both rich (i.e. massively privileged) and pretend to be a victim of societal injustice at the same time. That's called having your cake and eating it too, and i'm amazed people put up with it.

So much angst and bitterness You really have no clue what you're talking about as usual.
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Truly, a weak era for the White man. Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis are rolling over in their graves.

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So much angst and bitterness You really have no clue what you're talking about as usual.
There's no "angst or bitterness" (what post were you reading?). But unsurprisingly, you've got no argument against the facts I present, so you resort to the childish ad hominem, like usual. Anyway, what I wrote seems like a fair description of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QqgNcktbSA

And many other instances of similar bullshit. Somehow, it is the man being shouted at an abused (a person of supposed authority!) who has been forced to leave his job (along with his wife), and the girl shrieking obscenities and abuse has suffered no punishment; not long ago such behaviour would have merited instant expulsion, for anyone. But we live in an age of incredible privileges. Since when is that not remarkable privilege? To be allowed to hurl abuse at your elders and your elders be punished for it? Wow...

And, yes, this is an example of the most privileged and pampered elite since the pre-Revolution French aristocracy pretending to be precious little victims--it's downright farcical .

She is from a wealthy area, and evidently an idiot--so I would say an assumption of affirmative action is a fair one. The difference in average grade between your typical white and black and asian students is well-documented: blacks are by far the most privileged, and asians the most discriminated against. But yeah, keep denying the facts to prop up your precious "i'm so persecuted" narrative.
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OMG...Knoe Itawl is Patrick Buchanan.
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Or, your attestations of "privilege" are showing themselves to be completely non-factual--the product bigotry and hatred--rather than any kind of dispassionate analysis of the facts. Ignore it all you like, but it is a complete contradiction to portray white people as massively privileged when the white working class (i.e. those without money, without "privilege") is evidently having a harder time of things than any other group. Even when they are dying at alarming rates, when life-expectancy is plunging like no other demographic, and they are succumbing to the nihilism of suicide and drug-abuse, this bigotry-based fantasy is allowed to perpetuate itself with impunity.

Meanwhile, affirmative actioned dumb black bimbos from the burbs are running riot around college campuses
demanding everyone else pay lip service to what a terrible persecuted minority they are. Ah, but the white working class kid, who measured above the spoiled (wealthy, upper-middle class) black bimbo by every available metric, but was denied a place to fit an affirmative action quota, is the one who is "privileged."

You only need to see how these people behave around campus to see that it is they who are privileged; they frequently do and get away with disruptive and rule-breaking behaviour because of their clear privilege and special treatment. Privilege is about money and family, and not skin-colour, in this day and age. Pretending otherwise is contrary to all known facts. In fact, blacks have one privilege that white males don't have (and which they share with women), in that they can be both rich (i.e. massively privileged) and pretend to be a victim of societal injustice at the same time. That's called having your cake and eating it too, and i'm amazed people put up with it.


Yes, white people are so oppressed and underprivileged and the victim of racism and bigotry, but the (implied) majority of minority students on campus are "affirmative actioned dumb black bimbos from the burbs".

I'm about to die from a textbook case of irony.

It's a classic trope of white apologists and supremacists to look at a specific, contrived criteria to support their viewpoint, and exclude evidence that doesn't support them. Tell me, who has the highest incidence of poverty? Heart disease? Diabetes? Preventable illnesses? Malnutrition?

Ok, let's try another one. what is the ethnic makeup of Congress? Police officers? Judges accross the US? Members of UK Parliament? CEOs? Military leaders? Bankers? People running the universities? Millionaires? Billionaires?

Hey google, what are the overall life expectancies of some of these groups?
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White women 81.3 years, black females at 78 years, white males at 76.5 years and black males have the shortest at 71.8 years.

Yikes, black men live 5 years shorter than white men and a full decade less than white women. B-b-b-but the death rate! Didn't you read the article, oarabbus? Forget about the fact that blacks die from natural and unnatural causes much more frequently, because these particular statistics about white people show that their death rate is rising (but they still significantly outlive blacks). Who gives a FLYING FU.CK about black people when one specific subset of white people are suffering? It's always all about the white people. Always.

Let's not forget either that it's orders of magnitude more difficult for Asian males than white males to get into medical school, or be elected to congress, or get into ANY school, or be elected into ANY office, or numerous other factors when we play the 'anti-discrimination' game... but that's another story for another day. Sit down little Asian boys and girls, even less of a fu.ck is given about you than blacks.

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Dresta reads books, watches youtube, and counts statistics but he has little real world experience

That is why he doesn't get it
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