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Old 05-23-2011, 04:09 PM   #196
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Any idea over how many years the series will span? I'm curious what Stark's youngest daughter will be like if she becomes legit with the sword.
there was supposed to be a 5 year gap between the last set of books and the new ones coming out but george martin had a hard time making it work. i'm not sure how he resolved it. he admitted that he should have made the children older to start off with. (arya is like 11 or 12 and rob and john are around 16 at the beginning of the books) the hbo series aged them a bit which works better.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:10 PM   #197
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Aria's my favorite character, especially when she mocks her sister for wanting to get married and have kids. she just looks at her like she's retarded. i wish she were the focus of the story, too bad.

I agree with you all i hate Jaime Lannister too but i swear its more the actor playiing him that seems so out of place. He's way too clean and doesn't fit with the rest of the cast, granted he should look richer and more polished than the others, problem is he looks like a Knight out of a Disney movie than anywhere close to the knights in GoT. And like i said before i really hold the Married with Children aspect against him and i can't make it go away no matter how much i try when he's on screen.

Neds the biggest dumbass to me, and his wife. It drives me crazy watching these 2 idiots create their own problems.

i like the dwarf and Jon Snow too. Thats about all i like and if they all died i'd stop watching.

that's actually how he is supposed to look like. hes a pretty boy and a "knight out of the songs". him and Loras are supposed to be very good looking (loras is gay though)
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From what I've been led to believe, all the stuff you guys are talking about fleshes out over the life of the books, to the point where you get to see these families span a generation. The question is will the show get the ratings long enough for them to keep picking it up and making new ones to get through all the books.



Im sure they will try to make the story parallell the books. I hope they make this show last some, expecially if it stays so compelling like it is now.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:14 PM   #199
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Yes the Imp is pretty priceless.
He is crooked but he gives Bran the drawing for the saddle so he can ride and be "normal," he's hard to peg... he can be an idiot one day and so cool the next

Jaime is a chump! But he is a good fighter, I hope there is a massive fight scene soon.

I wonder if we will ever meet daddy Lannister? The rich guy, I always thought he was dead but they talk about him like he is alive?


the imp is not really crooked. he is actually one of the more moral characters in the story. he does his family duty as a lannister so you make think he is bad. he gets alot of hate from others and even his own family because he is a dwarf. he is misunderstood by almost everyone.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:17 PM   #200
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The imp has the best quotable lines...had me crying when he was confessing his crimes. Skeeting in someones oatmeal.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:18 PM   #201
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So...a criminal can be free if his champion beat the state's champion? That makes no sense whatsoever.

But I suppose they need to establish that the little imp's very cunning.
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The imp has the best quotable lines...had me crying when he was confessing his crimes. Skeeting in someones oatmeal.


top 3 characters are the imp, john snow, and arya hands down
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So...a criminal can be free if his champion beat the state's champion? That makes no sense whatsoever.

But I suppose they need to establish that the little imp's very cunning.


it's trial by combat. they are basically saying if God deems you innocent then he would let you win. it was a legit form of justice back in the day

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sounds retarded but this is the same kind of thinking as dunking an accused witch. if she drowns then she's not a witch (but she'd dead) if she doesn't drown then she's a witch so she gets executed
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:26 PM   #204
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sounds retarded but this is the same kind of thinking as dunking an accused witch. if she drowns then she's not a witch (but she'd dead) if she doesn't drown then she's a witch so she gets executed

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it's trial by combat. they are basically saying if God deems you innocent then he would let you win. it was a legit form of justice back in the day

sounds retarded but this is the same kind of thinking as dunking an accused witch. if she drowns then she's not a witch (but she'd dead) if she doesn't drown then she's a witch so she gets executed
I see. I guess that makes sense.

Also, who is that guy who was willing to be his champion? Wasn't he one of Stark's knights?
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I see. I guess that makes sense.

Also, who is that guy who was willing to be his champion? Wasn't he one of Stark's knights?
he is a mercenary named Bron. he was one of the guys in the inn who initially captured tyrion when Cate called the imp out. he switched sides for tyrion for the money
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he is a mercenary named Bron. he was one of the guys in the inn who initially captured tyrion when Cate called the imp out. he switched sides for tyrion for the money
There is a guy like that in the NBA....

One other thing, when the woman told him that he didn't fight with honor, was she referring to him throwing stuff, him running around or him killing a defeated man? Because the fight seemed fine considering he had no head armor and shield.
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top 3 characters are the imp, john snow, and arya hands down


I agree with this. Snow is even more compelling in the books so far, but that's mainly because the show has stalled his story arch, not because they've flat out missed or skipped some stuff.

It is interesting that in spite of the books not being dialogue driven, there are parts of dialogue in the show that are taken word for word from the book. The Imp's conversation with Jon Snow outside the big party for example is literally word for word taken from the text.

I've said before, the thing that makes the story so interesting is how it's not you're typical knights/rebels story where there are clear cut good guys and bad guys. It's one of the most compelling things about Jamie Lanister, because he looks the most your traditional good guy Knight. And the Imp is the most juxtaposed so far. He's rude, bordering on mean, and his drunkenness and leacherous behavior hide what is a smart and thoughtfull character otherwise.

I've found Ned to be a bit stiff, but he's becoming more compelling as he shows some passion. His obvious distaste for The Lanisters no longer being subdued, he's become more interesting.
And I'm still very much interested in more of his relationship with Jorah Mormont to be spelled out, because his lack of respect for that guy is completely off balance of what appears to be an overly chivalrous knight from everything we can see with the Targaryens so far.
Ned I'm feeling is someone we can wind up with very mixed feelings about. He was unwilling to hunt and Kill the pregnant Danerys Targarian, but it seems like had they made the same suggestion about Mormont in the same location, and having much less of a big picture impact, he'dve been more than happy to lead an army down there.
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There is a guy like that in the NBA....

One other thing, when the woman told him that he didn't fight with honor, was she referring to him throwing stuff, him running around or him killing a defeated man? Because the fight seemed fine considering he had no head armor and shield.
pretty much. he didn't fight like a knight would have.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:20 PM   #210
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Charlie Jane Anders Last night, Viserys finally got his promised reward, on Game of Thrones. Yay Viserys! He's shown the kind of leadership we can get behind. And now that his qualities have finally been recognized, he can clean up this whole mess.

Here's our recap of "A Golden Crown," focusing especially on why Viserys has the makings of a great monarch and speculating on just how Viserys would deal with some of those tricky political situations, back home in Westeros. Vote Viserys in 2012: You know it makes sense.

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Not only is Viserys the rightful heir to the Iron Throne, he's also a man who knows how to rule. As he tells Ser Jorah Mormont, you can't rule without wealth, fear or love. Luckily, Viserys knows how to get all three for himself.

First, Viserys gets the love of all of the Dothraki people, through his great display of warmth and spirit. He's already been doing a lot to win over the Dothraki in previous episodes, through acts of valor like bullying his sister and various serving girls. And by refusing to wear Dothraki garb or go to dinner with them, while calling them savages and insisting that they should all go die for him. He's done an excellent job of playing hard to get, which anyone will tell you is the best way to win people's love.

But in the latest episode, his charm offensive escalates, during his pregnant sister's ritual devouring of a raw horse heart. Viserys, recognizing that this is an important ceremonial occasion, keeps up a running commentary explaining how his sister will never be able to keep from puking up the heart and ruining her son's chances of leadership. And when Daenerys does keep the heart down, he stalks off in envy and disgust as the Dothraki pronounce her son the Khal of Khals and the "stallion who mounts the world."

A lesser man might think that it's pretty awesome that his sister is doing so well at assimilating into Dothraki culture and becoming such a powerful figure in their ruling elite. A lesser man might even see some advantage for himself in the fact that his nephew is believed to be the future world leader since people will fight like hell for a boy who's been prophesized to be the Khal of Khals, and this could prove very useful. But Viserys is no lesser man he is a man of vision.

As for wealth Viserys holds it in his hands. He's got hold of the three dragon eggs which his sister received as a wedding present. Not only are those eggs rare and immensely valuable, they appear to have some magical properties still, since Daenerys put one of them in the fire and it did not burn her. (Although her sister wasn't so lucky.) With those eggs, Viserys could have enough wealth to buy the Iron Throne for himself. Unfortunately, he's done such a great job with his charm offensive, winning over everyone's love, that nobody wants to see him leave. (At least, not with those eggs.)

Finally, Viserys has his chance to use fear to gain power. He gets out his sword even though swords and bloodshed are forbidden in the Khalasar and grabs his own pregnant sister at swordpoint, threatening to cut her baby out of her. That's putting the fear of Viserys into them! And this strategy totally works Viserys gets the crown he's been waiting for all this time. In fact, every episode of Game of Thrones from here on out is going to be about the awesome rule of King Viserys, and his noble pronouncements. Next week, for example, King Viserys is going to be rationalizing taxation of the Dornish Marshes, and improving the management of trade in Lannisport. It'll be awesome!

But of course, despite Viserys' great victory, there are still a few other characters we have to worry about in Game of Thrones. Let's run through their stories one by one, while asking: What would Viserys do?

There's Tyrion Lannister, who starts out the episode where he left off last week: trapped in a sky cell where every time he falls asleep, he almost rolls off the edge to his death. He's the prisoner of the merciless Lady Lysa Arryn and her psychotic son Lord Robert, who keeps screaming "Make the bad man fly." And his jailer, the demented Mord, keeps beating him and resisting all efforts to bribe him. (Tyrion trying to explain to Mord that the concept of ownership is sometimes abstract is one of the greatest things I've seen in ages, although not as great as what follows.)

Finally, Tyrion convinces Mord to let him see Lady Lysa and her sister, Catelyn Stark, on the pretext that he's going to confess his crimes. What would Viserys do in this situation? Bear in mind that Viserys is a formidable strategist, but also a proud man. Seeing two women and a little boy, he would probably attempt to drive the fear into them, with a healthy show of bluster. Show them what a real man is like. They'd have been so impressed, they'd probably send Viserys on his way by the quickest route possible.

Tyrion, not being as brilliant as Viserys, just uses his wits instead. First, he catches Lysa and Robert off guard by "confessing" to a series of petty crimes, including stealing a serving girl's clothes, putting goat shit in his uncle's boots, and wanking into his sister's turtle stew. "I made the bald man cry." (He also made me cry. With laughter.) Oh, and it's worth noting that Tyrion's speech is about one-millionth as funny in the book, where it goes:

Where to begin? I am a vile little man, I confess it. My crimes and sins are beyond counting, my lords and ladies. I have lain with whores, not once but hundreds of times. I have wished my own lord father dead, and my sister, our own gracious queen, as well. I have not always treated my servants with kindness. I have gambled. I have cheated. I blush to admit. I have said many cruel and malicious things about the lords and ladies of the court. Once, I

Compare that to "I milked the one-eyed snake," speaking about a turtle stew that he hopes his sister ate. Television Tyrion is just more fun, it must be said.

After Lady Lysa gets pissed and tries to send Tyrion back to the luxurious sky cells, he demands a trial and not by the sagacious mind of Lord Robert, but by combat. Tyrion tries to name his brother Jaime as his champion, but Lysa's not willing to wait that long to settle this. So Tyrion has to ask for a volunteer and it turns out Tyrion's own "hearts and minds" campaign has paid off, because he's made a friend: Bronn, a sword for hire. Bronn takes on Lysa's heavily armored champion, wearing no armor himself, and cuts the knight to shreds in front of the horrified court of the Eyrie. (Speaking of which, here's some amazing Eyrie concept art we found over at Fanpop.)

Once Bronn has vanquished Lysa's champion, he and Tyrion are free to go out onto the incredibly dangerous, nasty road from the Eyrie. They probably won't make it back to the Kingsroad in one piece, what with all those horrible hill tribes out there which just goes to show that Tyrion should be more like Viserys, who probably would have browbeat everyone into submission in no time.
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