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Old 04-01-2013, 08:37 PM   #2716
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no that was the merchant dude forgot his name. belwas was one of daenery's henchmen
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:41 PM   #2717
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I think Ned falls much more into battle commander than fighter.. He never fought in tourney's, and is only ever described as average. I'd bet he'd be able to figure out good ways to utilize forces, where to attack from etc.. but I'm convinced he wouldn't make Jaime's list either.

The way that I read Jaime is that he loves the art of swordsmanship. This is why I don't think he likes fighters as much as swordsmen, and would ever place them up on his list. The Cleganes are just brutes in Jaime's world, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't value them, or people that are good commanders either (for instance, his father or Ned).

For those that haven't read the books, in the HBO series, when Jaime kills the kid in the cell, he talks about Barristan Selmy using his sword like a paint brush and painted blood everywhere with it like an artist. In the book, that is the Black Fish, Cat's uncle and we'll meet him this season. Keep that in mind when you see him.

Its looking like we'll be introduced to the Brotherhood next episode. Can't wait for that.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:42 PM   #2718
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belwas was supposed to show up with barristan but he didn't. also, i havent heard any mention of him being cast so it doesnt look good ...
Thats why iam asking

all i could find was this

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What about the likelihood we'll meet Strong Belwas this season?

"No comment on that one," Martin said with a smile.

Still hoping they find him fighting somewhere and take him in.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:05 PM   #2719
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In one of the episodes of season 2 Jamie said to the bigass woman that is transporting him that in the whole land there are only 1 or 2 people who could match or beat him in a swordfight, who was he talking about?

Can anyone who has read the books shed some light on this?

Definitely the Hound and the Mountain. I'd take a guess at Barriston Selmy he's a universally known badass.

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Do you guys think they will introduce Strong Belwas at any point? I mean hes not a major character but hes pretty cool.

I think he could show up as one of the Mereen pit fighters or slaves that Dany frees. I understand not introducing too many characters because it can be overwhelming for the non book reading audience. He definitely is an awesome character of no major importance.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #2720
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As a person, but he was a great fighter in his day. He killed Rhaegar Targaryen 1v1 in the trident. But I think Barristan in his prime was the best swordsman ever, even over Jaime. He's definitely one of three.

Eh...not so much in the realm of "best ever."

The name that always comes up in seriously revered tones is Ser Arthur Dayne, who wielded Dawn, The Sword of the Morning and was one of Mad King Aerys' Kingsguard.

Jaime AND Barristan both speak of Arthur Dayne with utmost reverence and consider him the finest swordsman they'd ever seen.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:00 AM   #2721
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Eh...not so much in the realm of "best ever."

The name that always comes up in seriously revered tones is Ser Arthur Dayne, who wielded Dawn, The Sword of the Morning and was one of Mad King Aerys' Kingsguard.

Jaime AND Barristan both speak of Arthur Dayne with utmost reverence and consider him the finest swordsman they'd ever seen.
martin also said that selmy could possibly win if he had a comprable sword to dawn, or dayne was using a regular sword. kind of tells you how badass selmy is too.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:03 AM   #2722
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Wasn't barristan selmy the old guy who apologized to Dany on the latest episode and said he used to be head of the Kings guard and apologized for failing to protect her father?

What damage is this guy going to do, he's an old grandpa.

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Old 04-02-2013, 09:38 AM   #2723
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are there a lot of giants in the books? the one joining the wildlings seemed enourmous...almost makes everyone else seem irrevlevant, wether they are a master of the sword or big like the hound.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:45 AM   #2724
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are there a lot of giants in the books? the one joining the wildlings seemed enourmous...almost makes everyone else seem irrevlevant, wether they are a master of the sword or big like the hound.
There are a lot of giants, particularly in the third novel 'Storms of Swords'.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:26 PM   #2725
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Wasn't barristan selmy the old guy who apologized to Dany on the latest episode and said he used to be head of the Kings guard and apologized for failing to protect her father?

What damage is this guy going to do, he's an old grandpa.

Selmy's among the most skilled and respected knights in the Seven Kingdoms. He's one of the few swordsmen that Jaime has extreme respect for.

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Robert Baratheon: We're telling war stories. Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Jaime Lannister: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Barristan Selmy: [to Jaime] I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Jaime Lannister: [to Selmy] You killed Simon Toyne with a counter riposte. Best move I ever saw.
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Jaime Lannister: I was sixteen once. I also had to replace somone's squire on short notice.
Alton Lannister: Which knight was it?
Jaime Lannister: Barristan Selmy. The fight against the kingswood outlaws, before your time.
Alton Lannister: What was he like?
Jaime Lannister: He was a painter. A painter who only used red. I couldn't imagine being able to fight like that. Not back then. And to help him do it, to be a part of something that perfect. I don't need to explain how that felt, not to you.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:18 PM   #2726
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Wasn't barristan selmy the old guy who apologized to Dany on the latest episode and said he used to be head of the Kings guard and apologized for failing to protect her father?

What damage is this guy going to do, he's an old grandpa.

Yup same guy. The same guy Joffrey dismissed for being too old.

I'd say it's pretty impressive to reach that age when you've known nothing but fighting and swordplay your whole life. He's obviously doing something right.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:37 PM   #2727
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Wasn't barristan selmy the old guy who apologized to Dany on the latest episode and said he used to be head of the Kings guard and apologized for failing to protect her father?

What damage is this guy going to do, he's an old grandpa.
I guess it's not surprising that you and Joffrey share the same opinion.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:23 PM   #2728
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I guess it's not surprising that you and Joffrey share the same opinion.



also, this may help as a review

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Old 04-02-2013, 03:25 PM   #2729
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Is Joffrey ever gonna lay with a woman or is he waiting for Tyrell to make the first move??
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:27 PM   #2730
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Is Joffrey ever gonna lay with a woman or is he waiting for Tyrell to make the first move??

Joffrey would rather torture girls than get his dick wet. Joffreylogic
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