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Old 04-02-2013, 07:30 PM   #2731
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There are a lot of giants, particularly in the third novel 'Storms of Swords'.
Are the giants the kind of giants we usually see, just huge wild beasts basically or are they actually just really big people?
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #2732
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For those that haven't read the books, in the HBO series, when Jaime kills the kid in the cell, he talks about Barristan Selmy using his sword like a paint brush and painted blood everywhere with it like an artist. In the book, that is the Black Fish, Cat's uncle and we'll meet him this season. Keep that in mind when you see him.

Do you mean in the books Jaime says that about Black Fish instead of Selmy? The quote about him being a painter with the sword?
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:51 PM   #2733
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #2734
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Are the giants the kind of giants we usually see, just huge wild beasts basically or are they actually just really big people?
more of the side of huge beasts.

They look more humanish then i thought they would be.They're big but not stupid they have their own language or i think they speak the old tongue which i think is Valaryian?not sure more knowledgeable people would know.

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Old 04-02-2013, 09:57 PM   #2735
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Do you mean in the books Jaime says that about Black Fish instead of Selmy? The quote about him being a painter with the sword?
Not the exact quote word for word but the respect for him and the fact that he was his squire not Selmy's. Selmy is a bad ass either way, book or show.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:11 AM   #2736
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Just caught up with the show last night. I very much enjoyed it. The sets were incredible. These guys really know what they're doing.

I agree with the people about Mance not fitting my image of him. I expected him to be smaller, and more playfull. He's sort of an imposing figure. But I have faith that the character will work. Otherwise I feel like wildlings are handled really well. Although part of my interest in them may be related to how well things are shot up there.

The Tyrion Tywin scene was awesome, as most have pointed out. But I also felt the Onion Knight scene with Stannis and Melisandre was really well done.
A lot of the episode was just re-establishing conflicts. So it bounced around more than usual. It felt like they needed to re-establish everyone, and make sure the audience knew where they stood. Sansa and Littlefinger get a little play. Dany and slaver. Tyrion and his sister and father. Robb still on the hunt. Jon Snow captured. Stannis "still fighting". So perhaps not as deep as the average episode, but a great way to open the season.

One thing that differs from the books that I felt like some TV only people might be interested in, and this is not a spoiler, and I was curious how'd they pull it off, but in the end they just chose not to. But in the books Barriston Selmy establishes a relationship with Dany by saving her as he did here in the marketplace, but he proceeds as just a wise old man for the entire book. No one really knows who he is. He has a contentious relationship with Mormont for the entire book, mostly surrounding who Dany will lean on for council, and Mormont has a vague feeling he knows who he is. It's not until much later in the book that he's revealed as Selmy, and honestly I don't even remember if he comes out freely, or Mormont figures it out. I just know that I didn't know it was him the entire book, and the reveal was a shocker for me. With the visual presence obviously on screen, I didn't think they'd be able to pull it off, although from what I read some people saying, they didn't even remember him from the previous seasons anyway. So when he took off his hood and declared himself Ser Barristan Selmy, a lot of people were like "who?" I found it interesting he already stated that he was a member of Dany's father's kingsguard, and he died, and he'd like to redeem himself protecting her, because the fact that Aryes died at the hands of one of his Kingsguardsmen (Jamie), is sort of a point of contention between he and Mormont in trying to council Dany. It was as if they were trying to get that established now.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:14 AM   #2737
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:43 AM   #2738
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Just caught up with the show last night. I very much enjoyed it. The sets were incredible. These guys really know what they're doing.

I agree with the people about Mance not fitting my image of him. I expected him to be smaller, and more playfull. He's sort of an imposing figure. But I have faith that the character will work. Otherwise I feel like wildlings are handled really well. Although part of my interest in them may be related to how well things are shot up there.

The Tyrion Tywin scene was awesome, as most have pointed out. But I also felt the Onion Knight scene with Stannis and Melisandre was really well done.
A lot of the episode was just re-establishing conflicts. So it bounced around more than usual. It felt like they needed to re-establish everyone, and make sure the audience knew where they stood. Sansa and Littlefinger get a little play. Dany and slaver. Tyrion and his sister and father. Robb still on the hunt. Jon Snow captured. Stannis "still fighting". So perhaps not as deep as the average episode, but a great way to open the season.

One thing that differs from the books that I felt like some TV only people might be interested in, and this is not a spoiler, and I was curious how'd they pull it off, but in the end they just chose not to. But in the books Barriston Selmy establishes a relationship with Dany by saving her as he did here in the marketplace, but he proceeds as just a wise old man for the entire book. No one really knows who he is. He has a contentious relationship with Mormont for the entire book, mostly surrounding who Dany will lean on for council, and Mormont has a vague feeling he knows who he is. It's not until much later in the book that he's revealed as Selmy, and honestly I don't even remember if he comes out freely, or Mormont figures it out. I just know that I didn't know it was him the entire book, and the reveal was a shocker for me. With the visual presence obviously on screen, I didn't think they'd be able to pull it off, although from what I read some people saying, they didn't even remember him from the previous seasons anyway. So when he took off his hood and declared himself Ser Barristan Selmy, a lot of people were like "who?" I found it interesting he already stated that he was a member of Dany's father's kingsguard, and he died, and he'd like to redeem himself protecting her, because the fact that Aryes died at the hands of one of his Kingsguardsmen (Jamie), is sort of a point of contention between he and Mormont in trying to council Dany. It was as if they were trying to get that established now.

The thing about the Artisan Whitebeard reveal is that non book readers would be like "who?". For example I was watching the season premier with 7 other people non of them had read the book and only 1 remembered Ser Barristan and the others had to be explained who he is. The guy hasn't even been mentioned or seen since season 1 so even if they had played the book angle and kept his identity "hidden" the majority of viewers would still be like "who?" when he was finally revealed. Just too much confusion.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:52 AM   #2739
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The thing about the Artisan Whitebeard reveal is that non book readers would be like "who?". For example I was watching the season premier with 7 other people non of them had read the book and only 1 remembered Ser Barristan and the others had to be explained who he is. The guy hasn't even been mentioned or seen since season 1 so even if they had played the book angle and kept his identity "hidden" the majority of viewers would still be like "who?" when he was finally revealed. Just too much confusion.


I got the same thing from the non-readers that I talk to who watch the show. And I even heard Andy Greenwald talk about it on Grantland yesterday, and he pays enough attention to write about it, and he even had to backtrack in his brain to figure out who he was.

It just seemed like a good thing to know for non-readers.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:30 AM   #2741
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"OURS IS THE FURY" is probably the best house motto in Westeros.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:29 PM   #2742
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I got the same thing from the non-readers that I talk to who watch the show. And I even heard Andy Greenwald talk about it on Grantland yesterday, and he pays enough attention to write about it, and he even had to backtrack in his brain to figure out who he was.

It just seemed like a good thing to know for non-readers.

Well they still have time to explore it in the show considering that Ser Jorah did say he's the most dangerous man in Westeros. I wonder how they'll reveal Ser Jorah's betrayal considering Barristan being exposed was what exposed him. I can already see a conflict between them regarding purchasing slaves etc. So hopefully the show really explores that
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disappointed in Mance. he was nothing like how i pictured him. i expected him to be more roguish and charming. other then that, every character's casting has been spot on

That was their goal as they had McNulty from The Wire (Dominic West) pegged in that role. But he didn't want to be in Ice Land away from his family that long.
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That was their goal as they had McNulty from The Wire (Dominic West) pegged in that role. But he didn't want to be in Ice Land away from his family that long.

Damn it, Dominic West would have been a solid Mance.
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Yea....I thought they should have included the singing aspect with him just seeming to be a background type then ending up the king. Mcnulty would have pulled it off nicely.

Other guy can act...but I dont know how they pull off the traveling singing aspect book readers will know is key in the future.

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They look more humanish then i thought they would be.They're big but not stupid they have their own language or i think they speak the old tongue which i think is Valaryian?not sure more knowledgeable people would know.

They looked more human than described in the books. And they speak the old tongue. Some of the wildlings speak it but not most of them.
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