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Old 05-16-2013, 02:38 AM   #3466
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I have not read the books.

I think she is spy but not for Tywin. I talked about Rob being expendable in this thread the first time I seen her. But I thought she was going to kill him. Her evasiveness caught my eye right away but I wasn't thinking espionage. My hunch is she works for the black haired Lil Finger.

Tywin does impress me as a guy that would hold a meeting just to see how good his spy resources are in others. The counter argument would be why would he know where Jaime was and not do anything at all. He's definitely not a know but not do type of guy. I just don't see her working for Tywin, unless there was some massive crow intercept.

While Khaleesi is good at Valerian she seems to be totally alone in that world, and her resources seem to be devoid of even crows or friends beyond a couple of months.

You bring up a few good points... While I'm pretty sure Talisa is running a scam, I'm less sure that Tywin is behind it, though he'd be the most obvious candidate. Little Finger is an interesting prediction.

What would be his end-game though? It is one thing to have a spy and be generally devious, which he always is... But what Talisa is doing -- if she is a spy -- would go beyond simple "garnering information" territory and into an assassination/end the war scenario.

That would seem to benefit the Lannister, Baratheon and Tyrell cliques far more than anyone else.

Baelish? I have no doubt he would do it, but that is a pretty drastic action for someone always playing both sides.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:09 AM   #3467
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Maybe that punk just wants to keep an eye on Lady Stark. But I wouldn't doubt that Tulisa was just from some whorehouse and she made up the whole story about Volantis.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:18 AM   #3468
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While obviously not "spoiler" territory, I will say I'm sort of sorry I watched the Talisa/spy video. It seems so obvious to me now. Just re-watching this last episode, that love scene took on a new life. There she was, once again, writing letters no one else can read. There she was, once again, purposely distracting Robb from the task at hand. There was Catelyn Stark, once again, giving her the stink eye.

I will be absolutely shocked if that theory doesn't turn out being true, at this point.



Has Tywin publicly stated that he doesn't know the whereabouts or well being of Jamie? I know others have asked him about it and I recall his responses usually being somewhere in the neighborhood of, "I'll do anything I can."

That would actually go to backing the claims. He doesn't want to tell anyone or be overt about his tactic with all the "spiders" always playing both sides, but I don't remember him every flat-out denying knowledge of Jamie.

Also, if he has openly discussed not knowing about Jamie, it could be that he was aware Jamie was on his way, but it is taking longer than it should and he really doesn't know at

this stage?


I'm remembering specifically the small council meeting where Tywin hammers his guys for not knowing about Jamie's whereabouts. And if you want to say he knows but he's testing his crew, then they have to come back and clarify it, which is more work than they'll do.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:38 AM   #3469
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:39 AM   #3470
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Damn, the chick who plays Sansa looks like she'd be a total freak in bed.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:42 AM   #3471
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:54 AM   #3472
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You bring up a few good points... While I'm pretty sure Talisa is running a scam, I'm less sure that Tywin is behind it, though he'd be the most obvious candidate. Little Finger is an interesting prediction.

What would be his end-game though? It is one thing to have a spy and be generally devious, which he always is... But what Talisa is doing -- if she is a spy -- would go beyond simple "garnering information" territory and into an assassination/end the war scenario.

That would seem to benefit the Lannister, Baratheon and Tyrell cliques far more than anyone else.

Baelish? I have no doubt he would do it, but that is a pretty drastic action for someone always playing both sides.

Yeah, I rejected Varys because he plays a softer game with women/seductresses. But both manipulators are in the game of knowing things for future twist, possible accolades and points with Tywin. A delay with info is definitely a manipulators move, not somebody with established power already.

Its not Tywin cause Jaime's life was in limbo in front of her face, so to speak, a couple of times.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:01 PM   #3473
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He's going to be King... you can see it in his eyes, his swagger, his fearlessness. On a nice day he's the guy torturing Theon.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:19 PM   #3474
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Natalie Dormer is fine as f*ck!
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:23 PM   #3475
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One thing I like is that George Martin writes some episodes. He wrote the most recent one. So I feel like if they are sneaking Talisa being a spy in...hes at least in on it and really involved. Isnt just some guy deciding the story wasnt good enough. He wrote that episode himself.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:48 PM   #3476
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:20 PM   #3477
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He's going to be King... you can see it in his eyes, his swagger, his fearlessness.

Def swagger. No hover hands for this guy! He is right in there.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:24 PM   #3478
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:50 PM   #3479
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Why the **** is there a 2 week break between episodes 8 and 9!!??
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:56 AM   #3480
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Why the **** is there a 2 week break between episodes 8 and 9!!??

Wtf? Takes a year to film 10 episodes and now this.
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