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Old 04-14-2014, 12:09 AM   #4096
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Lost respect for Tywin. He was a nobody in the middle of his family shame and fall from grace.

What? That even exacerbated his badassness. Everyone an an uproar and shock and he's just standing there observing and calculating the very next move.
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:10 AM   #4097
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What? That even exacerbated his badassness. Everyone an an uproar and shock and he's just standing there observing and calculating the very next move.
He was probably happy that that idiot dropped dead and now there is a chance to raise a competent king
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:17 AM   #4098
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When's the last time Little Finger had screen time?
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:23 AM   #4099
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When's the last time Little Finger had screen time?

When Tywin sent his ass to the Eyrie way back in the early part of season 3.
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:24 AM   #4100
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He was probably happy that that idiot dropped dead and now there is a chance to raise a competent king

This.

Tywin was probably thinking, "Ah, fuck it."
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:27 AM   #4101
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Great episode.

What was this shit Bran saw? Seemed like somebody was telling him what to do. And Prince Oberman(?) is becoming my favorite character. Hopefully we see him fight.

And damn poor Tyrion. Had to send the woman he loves away, was humiliated by the King and now is being blamed for his death? Guy can't catch a break. I just want to know who poisoned Joffrey.
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:28 AM   #4102
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Having read all five books Stannis is frankly just one of the least charismatic characters in the series. I felt that way about Davos too, but I actually like Davos as a character and the things that were goign on in his chapters in book 5 were actually really interesting. My least favorite character has always been Dany because 1.her character has gone absolutely nowhere. The idea fro the beginning i that she's supposed to be coming to Westeros to take back what she feels is her Kingdom...but five books in she's no closer to Westeros and she's a TERRIBLY INCOMPETENT Ruler lol. Frankly I'm saying this as a man, but I think GRRM might be chauvinistic because Dany, Cersei, and Catelyn are basically the most incompetent players in the series lol. Cersei makes Robert look like a great King in book 4, Dany is just a **** up with everything she does, and Catelyn basically started the war of the five kings when she took Tyrion hostage with no real proof. They are all very ****ing stupid.

Stannis doesn't get "cool" until he meets up with you know who.
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:41 AM   #4103
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What? That even exacerbated his badassness. Everyone an an uproar and shock and he's just standing there observing and calculating the very next move.

The family looked like complete clowns, totally unfit to rule, absolutely dysfunctional, and given to madness and Tywin not a man to settle their differences. It was a circus and he wasn't even the ring leader. Hard to take that another way.
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:09 AM   #4104
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**** Joffery! Die bitch, die! Suffer! Die! Dickhead to the end! Die!

Great villain tho. But still hate his guts.

Great episode tonight.
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:16 AM   #4105
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Tywin is more of a behind the scenes kinda guy imo. And I don't think there is much he would have done anyway. Joffrey would just go crazy on him like he did Tyrion. It would have looked even more ridiculous if joffrey and tywin got into an argument right there.
Tywin is a badass, but he's essentially responsible for the Lannister's whole dysfunction as a family which pointguard correctly pointed out was on display for all of the elites of the kingdom.

First of all, Tywin irrationally despises Tyrion himself, so really Joffrey was just taking his cues from the big man. In reality, Tyrion should be the guy Tywin respects most out of all his children because he's the smartest and the most like his father (despite having a conscience), but he stupidly minimizes his role in the kingdom because he's short and his birth was what killed his wife.

But, beyond that, Tywin's impossible standards and weird favoritism toward Cersei and Jamie have warped those two, especially Cersei... who is the one who turned Joffrey into the monster he became.

Tywin is a complete badass when it comes to war and strategy and getting the upper hand in a fight, but a massive ****up as the patriarch of a family.

The way the Tyrell's were aghast at that whole pathetic scene tells the story. Dysfunction doesn't begin to describe it... you have incest, hatred between siblings, an insane boy king, etc. And, Tywin is the man responsible for all of it.


I was completely shocked by the turn of events and as much as I despised Joffrey, his character will be missed on the show. Any scene he was in was always filled with tension and intrigue, regardless of how vile he was.

Where do things go from here? I fear for Tyrion, even though he pretty obviously had nothing to do with it.
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:32 AM   #4106
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Tywin is a badass, but he's essentially responsible for the Lannister's whole dysfunction as a family which pointguard correctly pointed out was on display for all of the elites of the kingdom.

First of all, Tywin irrationally despises Tyrion himself, so really Joffrey was just taking his cues from the big man. In reality, Tyrion should be the guy Tywin respects most out of all his children because he's the smartest and the most like his father (despite having a conscience), but he stupidly minimizes his role in the kingdom because he's short and his birth was what killed his wife.

But, beyond that, Tywin's impossible standards and weird favoritism toward Cersei and Jamie have warped those two, especially Cersei... who is the one who turned Joffrey into the monster he became.

Tywin is a complete badass when it comes to war and strategy and getting the upper hand in a fight, but a massive ****up as the patriarch of a family.

The way the Tyrell's were aghast at that whole pathetic scene tells the story. Dysfunction doesn't begin to describe it... you have incest, hatred between siblings, an insane boy king, etc. And, Tywin is the man responsible for all of it.


I was completely shocked by the turn of events and as much as I despised Joffrey, his character will be missed on the show. Any scene he was in was always filled with tension and intrigue, regardless of how vile he was.

Where do things go from here? I fear for Tyrion, even though he pretty obviously had nothing to do with it.
Agreed. Tywin is the best at running a kingdom and an army but the worst at running a family
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:39 AM   #4107
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The way the Tyrell's were aghast at that whole pathetic scene tells the story. Dysfunction doesn't begin to describe it... you have incest, hatred between siblings, an insane boy king, etc. And, Tywin is the man responsible for all of it.

That was probably my favorite thing about this episode. Just their realization of how deep the well of crazy is in that family.
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:43 AM   #4108
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Everyone in Westeros knew the Lannisters are crazy. It was no surprise there.

The only thing they were surprised by was how big of a massive dick Joffrey is and how he will treat their daughter.

The Tyrells have family problems of their own so lets not throw stones at glass houses.
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Old 04-14-2014, 02:13 AM   #4109
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Joffery was such a bad ass

theres been too much amusement!
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Old 04-14-2014, 02:55 AM   #4110
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not gonna lie. I'm really gonna miss Joff on the show. He really brought the character to life
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