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Old 04-15-2014, 06:24 AM   #4246
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Maybe both. There was a quick but very intentional close-up of the cake and he reacted strangley at his first bite, but he also did a double-take when he took that first swig of the purple drank.
I thought they just showed the cake to show that Joffrey had killed a bird. SO it was kind of like 'oh wow birds flying out of a pie, thats nice' then show the dead bloody bird and its like 'oh shit'.

ALSO it is a retarded plan to poison the whole pie. How would they be sure Joffrey takes the first bite and how would the poisoner be sure that all the wedding guests dont eat it?


Poisoning the pie only makes sense if the killer wanted to kill everyone which obviously wasnt the case.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:39 AM   #4247
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Have I got it?

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Old 04-15-2014, 07:15 AM   #4248
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I think I've got it!!

The Yellow King poisoned him with homemade meth and double talk.

Have I got it?


Bosnian True Detective!!!


The thing is I was looking for it, because I knew it from the books. And when it happened in the books I missed it.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:56 AM   #4249
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Cersei and Jaimie did. Their first conversation ever gives that away already.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:42 AM   #4250
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I think it was Jaqen H'ghar. Arya gave him the last name and he replied saying it would take a while to accomplish. Perhaps killing Joffrey was the last name?

I could be way off but it's just a theory.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:56 AM   #4251
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I thought they just showed the cake to show that Joffrey had killed a bird. SO it was kind of like 'oh wow birds flying out of a pie, thats nice' then show the dead bloody bird and its like 'oh shit'.

ALSO it is a retarded plan to poison the whole pie. How would they be sure Joffrey takes the first bite and how would the poisoner be sure that all the wedding guests dont eat it?


Poisoning the pie only makes sense if the killer wanted to kill everyone which obviously wasnt the case.


i missed that dead bird in the cake. i was thinking it was filling, and only a small section was poisoned that they panned to, but if that was a dead bird then i completely missed it. i was thinking they just purposely took that area of cake and gave it to him.

at least i'm not the only one that got suckered by the camera there. they also made Marjorie look reaal suspicious feeding him that cake, and the looks she gave.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:57 AM   #4252
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Or is it? The relationship between Cercie and Jamie is common knowledge, even Tywin is aware of it. People just turn a blind eye out of fear. Also, incest isn't that taboo in the the "Westeros World". Khaleesis whole family is a product of incest (Remember she was going to marry her brother and become Queen), so the citizens are used to their rulers being from one family.

Ned believed Cercei was behind the murder because Jon Arryn (The old Hand) found out about Roberts bastard children (Who would have more of a claim to the throne than Joffrey).

Also, its never been confirmed in the show that Cercei was behind it. Its just presumed she was because of Lysa Arryns (Whos crazy) letter to her sister Catelyn, and Neds own POV.

Stay tuned.....

Stark read the same book Arryn did and found out that black hair has always dominated the Baratheon blood line. Doesn't matter much about the bastard children having "a better claim", because Joffrey would have no claim at all if it was proven he was an incest child.

Personally I got the feeling that Cercei admitted to it when Ned confronted her, you're saying I've been tricked, which is something I didn't need from this show.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:59 AM   #4253
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Can someone who's read the books describe Robert and Raeghar's battle in detail?

I haven't and thought it was supposed to be a clean win but apparently there were certain things that happened that don't make it a totally clean victory?
Well, the fight si never really described. We know that they clashed in the river, that Robert bashed Rainman's chest in and that Robert took an injury (a minor one in my opinion).
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:35 AM   #4254
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Well, the fight si never really described. We know that they clashed in the river, that Robert bashed Rainman's chest in and that Robert took an injury (a minor one in my opinion).


Robert was quite badly injured after the Battle of the Trident. Ned Stark went by himself with his host to relieve the Siege of Storm's end.

As I recall, the battle of the Trident was the battle that won Robert the war eventually. The Targaryen loyalists and the rebels were fighting and then Robert and Rhaegar met on the battlefield. Robert hit him so hard with his warhammer that the rubies from Rhaegar's chest plate flew all the way into the river.

After Rhaegar fell, the Targaryen armies scattered in fear.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:17 AM   #4255
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Robert was quite badly injured after the Battle of the Trident. Ned Stark went by himself with his host to relieve the Siege of Storm's end.

As I recall, the battle of the Trident was the battle that won Robert the war eventually. The Targaryen loyalists and the rebels were fighting and then Robert and Rhaegar met on the battlefield. Robert hit him so hard with his warhammer that the rubies from Rhaegar's chest plate flew all the way into the river.

After Rhaegar fell, the Targaryen armies scattered in fear.
I always thought the injury wasn't quite as bad as people seem to think. Robert was well enough to let his personal maester tend to heavily injured Selmy and he was also able to get to King's Landing only short time after Ned (based on the state of the corpses of Elia and children which were apparently not rotting yet when Tywin presented them to him).

I would say that it was a semi-serious injury at worse which basically only kept him from horse for few days. Sepsis was the greatest killer of medieval battles and the wound would've opened if he attempted to race to KL with Ned.

But that's just my view. Perhaps I am wrong and this is just me wanting to give the Rainman as little credit as possible
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:53 PM   #4256
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Whatever it may be, I would love a season go GOT where they show the War of the Usurper. Most interesting story right there.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:26 PM   #4257
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Biggest asshole in the history of television went down today.

What a great actor this Jack Gleesen was, he was 100% suited to portray Joffrey and he delivered big time. Respect!

Everybody is glad he's gone, but I'm not. He was just an amazing villian.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:35 PM   #4258
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Lets talk about Brans visions since for the most part even for book readers its pure speculation.

Thats the second time they have shown the throne room with snow in it, maybe at the end of it nobody sits on the throne?

The dragon flying over kings landing was it a vision from the past or future?Its summer when the dragon flys over it but the throne is covered in snow.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:39 PM   #4259
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Lets talk about Brans visions since for the most part even for book readers its pure speculation.

Thats the second time they have shown the throne room with snow in it, maybe at the end of it nobody sits on the throne?

The dragon flying over kings landing was it a vision from the past or future?Its summer when the dragon flys over it but the throne is covered in snow.


it has been speculated that that wasn't actually snow, but ash from being burned by dragonfire.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:49 PM   #4260
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it has been speculated that that wasn't actually snow, but ash from being burned by dragonfire.
Nah i dont think so.Dany saw it in the house of the undying and now bran saw it.It has to be snow.

I whent back to see it and its for sure snowing in the throne room
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