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Old 04-15-2014, 02:23 AM   #4711
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:53 AM   #4712
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Can someone who's read the books describe Robert and Raeghar's battle in detail?

I haven't and thought it was supposed to be a clean win but apparently there were certain things that happened that don't make it a totally clean victory?

It was clean. Robert killed Rhaegar in 1v1 combat at the battle of the trident. Robert brought his warhammer and Rhaegar brought his rubies to battle. Now, they call that area where the battle took place the Ruby Ford.
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:26 AM   #4713
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I know, I used to have demonoid but we all know what happened there. It's back up, but I cannot remember my account and they aren't accepting new members atm. If you have a site you could hook me up with, that would be greatly appreciated
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:05 AM   #4714
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Most definitely. Watch it in 0.9 speed if you have to

Just don't say anything once you've found it.

I wish you'd give a specific time frame to look at, I have re-watched the scene from where Joeffry spills wine on Tyrion till the end 3 times now, looking carefully at each character. At first I thought it was Jeoffry's younger brother, seeing as his hand was on top of the bottle of wine (looking like he just dropped something in) and then wiping his hands off his cloths, but then I realized that Jeoffry's cup was refilled over near lady Tyrell. I also noticed the eye contact established between lady Tyrell and Tyrion when Tyrion went to leave the glass by her table, right as the cake was coming out. Am I hot or cold?

I wonder, was it the wine that poisoned him, or the cake?
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:24 AM   #4715
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Maybe both. There was a quick but very intentional close-up of the cake and he reacted strangley at his first bite, but he also did a double-take when he took that first swig of the purple drank.
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:31 AM   #4716
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I wish you'd give a specific time frame to look at, I have re-watched the scene from where Joeffry spills wine on Tyrion till the end 3 times now, looking carefully at each character. At first I thought it was Jeoffry's younger brother, seeing as his hand was on top of the bottle of wine (looking like he just dropped something in) and then wiping his hands off his cloths, but then I realized that Jeoffry's cup was refilled over near lady Tyrell. I also noticed the eye contact established between lady Tyrell and Tyrion when Tyrion went to leave the glass by her table, right as the cake was coming out. Am I hot or cold?

I wonder, was it the wine that poisoned him, or the cake?

Guy, if I give you a specific time-frame it'd be straight up telling you.

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Old 04-15-2014, 04:36 AM   #4717
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Just a heads up, I won't discuss much of anything in here because Iv read the books and don't want to spoil anything for anyone who doesn't want it spoiled, but for anyone who wants clarification on anything that's already happened in the show, tower of the hand is a great tool. It lets you set the scope of what you know so it doesn't spoil anything and it's incredibly informative
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:04 AM   #4718
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I think I've got it!!

around the 32 minute mark when lady Tyrell gets up to speak to Sansa, she starts playing with her hair and then touches something around the neck area....and then when we get a close up of Sansa, you can see to the far right that one of the stones is missing from her necklace. No wonder that joker gave her that necklace last episode and told her to wear it, and of course he is the one to tell Sansa to leave. Funny thing is, I can't seem to find when the stone is put to use.

Have I got it?
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:24 AM   #4719
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Maybe both. There was a quick but very intentional close-up of the cake and he reacted strangley at his first bite, but he also did a double-take when he took that first swig of the purple drank.
I thought they just showed the cake to show that Joffrey had killed a bird. SO it was kind of like 'oh wow birds flying out of a pie, thats nice' then show the dead bloody bird and its like 'oh shit'.

ALSO it is a retarded plan to poison the whole pie. How would they be sure Joffrey takes the first bite and how would the poisoner be sure that all the wedding guests dont eat it?


Poisoning the pie only makes sense if the killer wanted to kill everyone which obviously wasnt the case.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:39 AM   #4720
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Have I got it?

Yes.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:15 AM   #4721
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I think I've got it!!

The Yellow King poisoned him with homemade meth and double talk.

Have I got it?


Bosnian True Detective!!!


The thing is I was looking for it, because I knew it from the books. And when it happened in the books I missed it.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:56 AM   #4722
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Cersei and Jaimie did. Their first conversation ever gives that away already.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:42 AM   #4723
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I think it was Jaqen H'ghar. Arya gave him the last name and he replied saying it would take a while to accomplish. Perhaps killing Joffrey was the last name?

I could be way off but it's just a theory.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:56 AM   #4724
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I thought they just showed the cake to show that Joffrey had killed a bird. SO it was kind of like 'oh wow birds flying out of a pie, thats nice' then show the dead bloody bird and its like 'oh shit'.

ALSO it is a retarded plan to poison the whole pie. How would they be sure Joffrey takes the first bite and how would the poisoner be sure that all the wedding guests dont eat it?


Poisoning the pie only makes sense if the killer wanted to kill everyone which obviously wasnt the case.


i missed that dead bird in the cake. i was thinking it was filling, and only a small section was poisoned that they panned to, but if that was a dead bird then i completely missed it. i was thinking they just purposely took that area of cake and gave it to him.

at least i'm not the only one that got suckered by the camera there. they also made Marjorie look reaal suspicious feeding him that cake, and the looks she gave.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:57 AM   #4725
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Or is it? The relationship between Cercie and Jamie is common knowledge, even Tywin is aware of it. People just turn a blind eye out of fear. Also, incest isn't that taboo in the the "Westeros World". Khaleesis whole family is a product of incest (Remember she was going to marry her brother and become Queen), so the citizens are used to their rulers being from one family.

Ned believed Cercei was behind the murder because Jon Arryn (The old Hand) found out about Roberts bastard children (Who would have more of a claim to the throne than Joffrey).

Also, its never been confirmed in the show that Cercei was behind it. Its just presumed she was because of Lysa Arryns (Whos crazy) letter to her sister Catelyn, and Neds own POV.

Stay tuned.....

Stark read the same book Arryn did and found out that black hair has always dominated the Baratheon blood line. Doesn't matter much about the bastard children having "a better claim", because Joffrey would have no claim at all if it was proven he was an incest child.

Personally I got the feeling that Cercei admitted to it when Ned confronted her, you're saying I've been tricked, which is something I didn't need from this show.
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