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Old 12-15-2006, 07:40 PM   #1
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Default This is the state of Hip Hop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njrmL1y3ul8

Yo, I'm in tears right now... lol
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:47 PM   #2
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That is retarded rap...literally. :


I like this tho (sorry, sue me!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heaNukZkEMg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDK2t9nyko

And what would dancing be without white people?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MxTn1YYWmo

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That is retarded rap...literally. :


I like this tho (sorry, sue me!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heaNukZkEMg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDK2t9nyko

And what would dancing be without white people?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MxTn1YYWmo


I find myself looking for occasions to say "do the heizman on that ho" and do one rep of the dance.
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:57 AM   #4
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:28 AM   #5
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You have got to be kidding me.........
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:32 AM   #6
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that first link is RIDICULOUS
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As long as Talib Kweli, Mos Def, and Common have a breath in their lungs, THIS will always be the state of hip-hop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ba1vjkV7U

and in case you don't know, here's a little dead prez sample...go to amazon and buy "let's get free" RIGHT NOW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Waf74PX9h7Y
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Old 12-31-2006, 12:40 PM   #8
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I've never heard of that Heizman thing, but I see that there are literally dozens of videos of people doing the dance on youtube. I guess everybody learned it from the orginal mtv video or something and fell in love with it?
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Old 12-31-2006, 12:41 PM   #9
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Attack Of The Coons

Before I even get into this I just want to state that these are my thoughts on hiphop music and not a debate on what is "real" and not "real". As the great B. Siegal once said "everything is already real". I'm not a purist, backpacker, G, hipster, thug, blood, crypt or buddisht. But I am an mc and these debates that have been poppin' up lately on the artform I've been blessed to be apart of is just callin my name. So I wanted to share my thoughts.

So there's been a lot of talk lately about Nas's album title "Hiphop Is Dead". Many people, including Young Jeezy (for those that don't know he and Monie Love had a spat, live on the radio about it, amongst other things) feel its disrespectful to the new breed of rappers, in paticular to the south. It is viewed as a purist statement, a pining for the good ole days of boom baps, backpacks and the like. To say hiphop is dead is to take away from all the current mcs coming up, all the producers and djs givin us beats to move to, all the people who make a living off or contribute this artform right? Yes and no.

I say yes he is wrong for saying that because that's such a genreal blanket statement. I remember Sports Illustrated doing a cover story a few years back on how the NBA was dead, Jordan was gone and the "showtime" b-ball we all came to love had been replaced by the most boring **** on earth. A few years later we had Kobe, Lebron, Mello and all of a sudden it was revived. But as the saying goes, the game never changes, just the players. Hiphop itself has always been alive and well, so is it that the players have changed so much and these old heads that either quit the game or on their way out is just salty at the new guard? That could be it. Or it could be that the players before were really passionatie about the sport and really wanted to leave a legacy behind as opposed to cashing in and being famous. With that being said, Nas wasn't wrong for calling his album this. And I'll tell you why.

Hiphop is dead man. As far as the idea of what it was supposta be at least. See america has this tendency to take things from the black community, rape it and make it their own and then turn around and say "it was never yours and its racist if you don't agree." Nah **** that. I'm sick of that game man. This is what it is and yes its changed and people of every race and creed are in here now but this is what the intention was - The idea of hip hop was for the young people of urban america to have a voice. That voice might be one of introspect (Nas), gansta **** (Jeezy, Cube,) dancin' and partyin' (Kid n play, Hammer, don't laugh they are all relavent) education and revolution (Krs, Immortal Technique) and so on. But now what's happening is, there is only one voice that america wants to hear now. And that's the voice of the coon. The charicature of the black man at his worst. The savage, gun totin' ****** who sells drugs and kills other ******s and brags about it. The voice of the "streets" they say. Well let me tell you about the "streets". Its filled with thugs just like its filled with church ladies and good hardworking people. But to them, that's corny. That's not hot. Who wants to hear some ****** tryin to sound smart and say something that might trigger someone to think different. No no no. We want the coon. The ignorant mother****er, weather he be southern, east coast west coast or whatever. Just as long as he is talkin about ignorant **** and its got a dope beat then that's what's up. But in the same breath will big up a band (Radiohead, Gnarlys Barkely) for being dope ARTISTS. Bands that make terrible mindless music they play on the radio aren't hot. They aren't makin any groundbreaking music. Ok, so why don't they hold the same standard up to hiphop? Is it that this music is so disposable and dumb that we shouldn't expect our mcs to make songs that move our souls and not just our feet? And who are "they" usually? You know the people who determine what's current and "now"? The bloggers and magazine editors and trend jumping scenceters and djs who usually don't live in the hood unless its a gentrified hood and even then be scared to death when someone who looks like one of their favorite rappers is walking down the street late at night. I say that because these kids don't seem to understand that music has never ever been just music. Nah son, that **** is more powerful then any teacher or mentor in the hood. These kids idolize, mock and devote their lives to the ideology of rappers. Pac said it best when he claimed that many of us were raised by rappers. And yeah that's ****ed up and where are the parents and rappers shouldn't be made to role models etc etc. That's a lame excuse man. The fact is they DO and if all they have to listen to is kill your own people (yeah, I said "your own people", cuz lets face it the first rapper to make a whole album deticated to killing white people is going DOWN) then mother****er HIPHOP is DEAD. The idea that we could use this music to uplift urban youth and speak about the problems of the community, the real community which consits of my grandparents and little brother and cousins and friends who don't sell coke and might still die this year want to hear some intelligence and learn about black heroes and laugh about the good times and not be made to feel "corny" because of it, then the whole point of this as an artform is dead. And maybe that's what old head was saying by naming his album that.

So please, don't just say Nas is just some bitter old head with no point. And don..'t make Jeezy out to be the reason the hood is so ****ed up either. And don..'t make it into some east vs south **** like yall (media whores) made it out to be last time cuz once again black men will get shot and they..'ll be the same people callin us savages. But most importanly, above all don..'t belive that the only voice of the ghetto is one of murder and drugs. When you dismiss the kid who wants to say something diffrent or is talkin about how ****ed up things are as a corny puritist who can..'t let go of the 90s, what it says is we don't want to hear no black person try and change their surrondings for the better. I..'m not sayin go buy a bunch of ****in Tribe Called Quest records and hold hands but damn man stop denying that people have a point when they say the current state of this artform is one sided and stereotypical to what my mother told me was the savage. The ignant ***** as our mascot? I say no. Cuz what yall call the streets just ain't ******s with guns. And until the powers that be recognize that, then my dude, hiphop is dead.

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Old 12-31-2006, 12:44 PM   #10
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Hip Hop is international:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ZShn7Acsk
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:04 PM   #11
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As long as Talib Kweli, Mos Def, and Common have a breath in their lungs, THIS will always be the state of hip-hop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ba1vjkV7U

and in case you don't know, here's a little dead prez sample...go to amazon and buy "let's get free" RIGHT NOW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Waf74PX9h7Y

For every Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common, KRS-One, Chuck D... there are 9 videos like these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjr-bP-sSgs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJYakbUPqvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKd49riWLOI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wEwH71brk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkAJS0zRNxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyLuzzkbx-E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOTy_64e9MA

Ridin' Dirty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3v661r9pgQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3v661r9pgQ
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:16 PM   #12
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one of the best hip hop songs cr3@+3d

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XnOw9AbUIJo

one of the most forgotten MC's
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d94QPM9Lh...elated&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YR9QYOAl2rQ

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Old 12-31-2006, 01:21 PM   #13
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Mainstream rap has really become Sambo Rap, which is why most of it is garbage. No difference between it and the minstrel shows of 60 years ago. White people just looooooooove the "thug" black man talking about smacking his bytches, shooting n!ggas and other community destroying acts.

Because of record company/MTV brainwashing from the past 10+ years, your average suburban white hip hop "fan" doesn't want to listen to any black men that might be talking about stuff of SUBSTANCE. They want the 50s, the Jeezys the Yin Yang Twins, the L'il Jons, etc.

Black men who are intelligent, non violent and non mysoginistic are boring after all.
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:35 PM   #14
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MC Ren "Mad Scientist"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voT_MR06AtM

Above the Law "Black Superman"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2uTJoO6OmQ

Geto Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAyS8BxRN0

Kool G Rap "Take Em to War"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2yqzs4lXSY

Raekwon "Incarcerated Scarfaces"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uEd6Rr676c

Your thoughts on these songs Knoe
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:03 PM   #15
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MC Ren "Mad Scientist"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voT_MR06AtM

Above the Law "Black Superman"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2uTJoO6OmQ

Geto Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAyS8BxRN0

Kool G Rap "Take Em to War"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2yqzs4lXSY

Raekwon "Incarcerated Scarfaces"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uEd6Rr676c

Your thoughts on these songs Knoe

First, your thoughts on my first and second posts in this thread. Thanks.
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