Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!

[I.Malcolm]

Originally Posted by DuMa

Rose is not a pure PG. so i wont call him one. i still say hes one of the best combo guards.

Because Rose is a GREAT scorer AND a GOOD passer.. He's a combo.

But because Rondo is a POOR scorer and a GREAT passer.. He's a pure PG?

Am I the only one tired of this sh*t?

[I.Malcolm]

Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen

Maybe, but I like our chances more than the Bulls.



Show me when Rose dropped 29/18/13 on a top 5 defensive team and come back to me. In fact minus CP3 show me when any of them did it in the playoffs...

Ninja edit:

I didn't realize that was what Rondo averaged.

To be real, Rondo is awesome, but he's the third best player on his team. Rose is the MVP of the league.

[Clocian-IGN]

i dont see where it's official but if true, congrats drose

[DRose.IS.da.MAN]

Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen

Maybe, but I like our chances more than the Bulls.



Show me when Rose dropped 29/18/13 on a top 5 defensive team and come back to me. In fact minus CP3 show me when any of them did it in the playoffs...

It's easy to average those numbers playing with 3 future HOFs and a stacked team. Lets see what he does when they leave.

The guy can't even hit a open shot for god's sake or a free throw

Any decent PG would be as good as Rondo on the Celtics

[DRose.IS.da.MAN]

Originally Posted by I.Malcolm

Because Rose is a GREAT scorer AND a GOOD passer.. He's a combo.

But because Rondo is a POOR scorer and a GREAT passer.. He's a pure PG?

Am I the only one tired of this sh*t?

It's these dumb posters here, who THINK they know what a PG is supposed to do.

They think PGs are just supposed to stack up assists. The point of the PG is to run the offense

[crisoner]

Congrats to D-Rose!!!!!

I don't know why some of you people want to knock him. He doesn't play for my team and isn't my favorite player but come on he had a great year.
Stop hating and just give the kid his just dues.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Rose is the MVP of this season thanks to his team, and don't anyone ever forget it. He still is not a better player than Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Dwight or Paul. And probably Durant.

[crisoner]

Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen

Rose is the MVP of this season thanks to his team, and don't anyone ever forget it. He still is not a better player than Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Dwight or Paul. And probably Durant.

See right there...we don't need to mention that.
Give him his props and move a long. Save that for another thread.

[DuMa]

Originally Posted by I.Malcolm

Because Rose is a GREAT scorer AND a GOOD passer.. He's a combo.

But because Rondo is a POOR scorer and a GREAT passer.. He's a pure PG?

Am I the only one tired of this sh*t?

theres obviously a great deal of difference between a pure PG and a combo guard. its not my definition but its pretty clear that rose isnt a pure PG by a long stretch. theres nothing wrong with that btw.

[DRose.IS.da.MAN]

Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen

Rose is the MVP of this season thanks to his team, and don't anyone ever forget it. He still is not a better player than Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Dwight or Paul. And probably Durant.

Success brings haters

According to you the top 5 player in the league let his team get eliminated taking 9 shots? 10 points? No killer instinct?

Too bad the Celtics future might be in jeopardy if they get kicked out of the playoffs this year.

They would have to build around RONDO, I hit more open shots than him, might as well build around me

Feel sorry for you man

[I.Malcolm]

Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen

Rose is the MVP of this season thanks to his team, and don't anyone ever forget it. He still is not a better player than Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Dwight or Paul. And probably Durant.

Right, exactly. Rose would not have won the MVP if he had played 1 on 5, literally, the entire season. How many games this year did Noah and Boozer miss combined? How many games did Bogans/Kurt Thomas start?

You really want to talk about team effect on a player?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Originally Posted by crisoner

See right there...we don't need to mention that.
Give him his props and move a long. Save that for another thread.

Whereas other posters bring up Rondo as only being as good as his team. Double standard on ISH as per usual...

[I.Malcolm]

Originally Posted by DuMa

theres obviously a great deal of difference between a pure PG and a combo guard. its not my definition but its pretty clear that rose isnt a pure PG by a long stretch. theres nothing wrong with that btw.

I know and I didn't perceive it as an insult to Rose because it's a pretty common phrase. I just don't understand it. I never realized a term for a player should decide exactly how they play. PG/SG/SF/PF/C are all just labels for players on the court. Not what they do for me. If I need my SHOOTING GUARD to be an ELITE DEFENDER rather than a SHOOTER... He's still my SG. Do I call him a "non pure SG" because he focuses on D over O?

Why isn't any other position on the court dissected to such a degree?

[I.Malcolm]

Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen

Whereas other posters bring up Rondo as only being as good as his team. Double standard on ISH as per usual...

It's the absolute truth, though. Rondo makes his money with his assist count. Pierce/KG/Allen are the reasons he can drop so many dimes.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Originally Posted by I.Malcolm

Right, exactly. Rose would not have won the MVP if he had played 1 on 5, literally, the entire season. How many games this year did Noah and Boozer miss combined? How many games did Bogans/Kurt Thomas start?

You really want to talk about team effect on a player?

So Rose shooting worse this year but getting ~20 more wins was because of him, and only him? You brought up team effect on a player.

I'm done here, you won't listen to whats been said thousands of times before and you aren't going to start now...