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Old 05-04-2011, 11:41 PM   #1
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Default Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

A la charging? It's cheating, just like flopping.

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Old 05-04-2011, 11:43 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

is it ok when kobe does it? how come you dont make a thread every time he does it?
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:43 PM   #3
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

Only is when you hit Lebron or Wade..





In all slightly more seriousness, if you lower your shoulder into the defender and ram it in there, like Paul Pierce does, then it is an offensive foul.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:44 PM   #4
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

Cause its not. Stop it BS it boy In does it too. It's a offensive move to fake or draw a foul. Don't jump
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:47 PM   #5
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

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It's cheating, just like flopping.

It isn't "just like flopping", it IS flopping. So is the rip through move.

Most players will use some form of flopping. So you should probably just stop expecting those guys to flip the switch off and stop doing it. It gives them an edge, so they're all going to do it whenever they can.


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Cause its not. Stop it BS it boy In does it too. It's a offensive move to fake or draw a foul. Don't jump

He's talking about when the ball handler jumps forward and throws a shoulder into the defender. He isn't talking about a guy who jumps on a pump fake and lands in the offensive player's space.
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

Kobe does it Stop whinning.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:49 PM   #7
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

It is cheesy as hell. Especially in 2k11
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:50 PM   #8
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

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It isn't "just like flopping", it IS flopping. So is the rip through move.

Most players will use some form of flopping. So you should probably just stop expecting those guys to flip the switch off and stop doing it. It gives them an edge, so they're all going to do it whenever they can.




He's talking about when the ball handler jumps forward and throws a shoulder into the defender. He isn't talking about a guy who jumps on a pump fake and lands in the offensive player's space.
I know, its a legal move don't jump. Davy players use it and smartly.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:54 PM   #9
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

It's bullshit.
I wouldn't call anything,just keep playing.
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

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I know, its a legal move don't jump. Davy players use it and smartly.

We know it's a legal move. The thread is questioning why it is legal. It should be an offensive foul. Or at least a no call. It's a very cheap move.

And I'm guessing you meant "savvy", not "davy".
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:57 PM   #11
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

I dont think Kobe should do it either. It cheapens the game.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:58 PM   #12
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

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We know it's a legal move. The thread is questioning why it is legal. It should be an offensive foul. Or at least a no call. It's a very cheap move.

And I'm guessing you meant "savvy", not "davy".

Yup, this.

Wade is the absolute worst at it. He'll jump into a defender three feet to the right of him and get a whistle for it.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:59 PM   #13
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

Its an offensive foul or a no call if the defender jumps straight up and you jump into him. Its a shooting foul if the defender jumps towards you and you jump into him at the same time to create contact. Its also an offensive foul if the defender jumps on the side but the offensive player jump sideways to create contact but refs will sometimes miss that call

whats so hard to understand?
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:59 PM   #14
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

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Yup, this.

Wade is the absolute worst at it. He'll jump into a defender three feet to the right of him and get a whistle for it.
LOL, so true.

He does a damn long jump into a defender and gets foul. Just atrocioius. Just like spelling, but whatever.
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Default Re: Why is pumpfaking and jumping INTO the defender not an offensive foul?

It's smart basketball. If you wanna be mad at anybody, be mad at the defenders biting on the pump fake.
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