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Old 07-19-2011, 09:52 PM   #31
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Considering all Horny has given the franchise it's pretty cheap of them not to at least take care of him.
Being cheap has been the standard operating procedure since the son took over hasn't it?

From the sounds of it he's not going elsewhere, but I'm sure it's not the most encouraging thing when every other team is finalizing deals on the coaching staff and you're told to wait.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:54 AM   #32
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I'd say his father was a lot cheaper. He has paid luxury tax the past two years though they didn't spend it very wisely with Okur, Jefferson, Bell etc. while giving away Maynor and selling Deron off to the 2nd offer to save money.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:59 AM   #33
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The Utah Jazz have not had any layoffs as a result of the leagueís work stoppage, and there are none planned.


Part of the reason is the organizationís ties to the Larry H. Miller Group of Companies, which controls the Jazz, Triple-A Salt Lake Bees and Miller Motorsports Park, among other business entities. Many LHM employees work for multiple enterprises and hold interrelated job titles.



By avoiding layoffs, LHM can keep other sports-related businesses running at full force and be prepared for the 2011-12 NBA season once the league resumes operations.




The lockout is expected to last several months, though, and could wipe out the entire season. If the latter occurs, the Jazz might be forced to re-evaluate their no-layoff stance as the work stoppage drags on.




Utah did not resort to significant layoffs during the 1998-99 lockout, which produced a shortened 50-game season.


Via Brian T. Smith/Salt Lake Tribune


No layoffs but how many in limbo like Horny? He's been working for nothing but I guess since they overpaid him on his last contract at the cost of letting Shandon Anderson go he already got his.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:45 AM   #34
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Amazing how guys get into shape when it's time for a contract! He should be on the block with Haywood and the other kid aboard now.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:03 AM   #35
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Jazz certainly look like the front runner for the most ping pong balls. With Jerry West in GS I wouldn't count on too much with that pick though.
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Jazz certainly look like the front runner for the most ping pong balls. With Jerry West in GS I wouldn't count on too much with that pick though.
West is just a consultant, Larry Riley is the GM. Warriors will still have trouble making the playoffs in the West, it's tight and unless Denver, Portland and New Orleans dramatically fall off and the Clippers don't make any improvement then they will probably miss again. It'll be a high lottery pick most likely, but as you've seen with Cleveland it's still a chance to win.
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Yes but what a consultant!

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Warriors will still have trouble making the playoffs in the West

Of course but they certainly have enough talent there. It depends on rather Biedrins can return to form and rather Mark Jackson has a clue which remains to be seen. They could certainly be in the mix.

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it's tight and unless Denver, Portland and New Orleans dramatically fall off and the Clippers don't make any improvement then they will probably miss again

Denver is loaded with free agents, at least 3 of which have already headed over here to the middle kingdom and if Nene leaves which looks very possible they could be fighting the Jazz for the bottom though Karl has always won somehow or another. Even if everyone else returns they are without a star as well so they are a longshot despite the way the finished after the trade last year.

New Orleans could lose West and his replacement Landry so their season is very much up in the air as well. McMillan will win and lots of talk there about guys like Landry and Crawford joining up too. Not sure Felton is an upgrade personally though.

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It'll be a high lottery pick most likely, but as you've seen with Cleveland it's still a chance to win.

Their own looks like the big one though depending on how the "off-season" shakes out assuming there will be one.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:07 PM   #38
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C.J. Miles already achieved one goal. He wanted to drop weight during the offseason and he did just that, saying Thursday he tips the scales at 222 pounds — 15 less than he weighed during the 2010-11 season.

Now, Miles has one more mountain to climb. The veteran forward said he wants to start for the Jazz, and he's fine if the first-string position is at the 2 or 3.

"My goal from the second the season ended to when I went into work was I was going to come into camp and be the starting shooting guard or small forward — they're interchangeable," Miles said. "That was my goal: I was going to be the starter. It's my job to take, so if it's up there, I'm going to take it."

Miles, Gordon Hayward, Raja Bell and Alec Burks are expected to compete for time at the 2 and 3 once training camp starts Dec. 9.

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I've been his biggest supporter but with Burks and Haywood around now he has become expendable it would seem.

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Old 12-02-2011, 12:44 AM   #39
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Early indications are the Jazz will not be major players once the NBA free-agency period begins Dec. 9.

After two days of informal discussions between teams and agents, multiple sources told The Salt Lake Tribune that Utah will likely focus on making minor additions to what will be an 11-man roster once rookies Enes Kanter and Alec Burks are signed. The Jazz are expected to primarily focus on adding a proven backup point guard, and could use veteran minimum contracts to fill out the remainder of their roster.

Utah has expressed initial exploratory interest in unrestricted free agents Rasual Butler, Sebastian Telfair and Roger Mason, a source said. Meanwhile, a source close to forward Andrei Kirilenko gave no indication the Jazz are actively attempting to re-sign him. Kirilenko did draw immediate interest from multiple teams, though.

Sources also reiterated to The Tribune the Jazz are not expected to immediately use their amnesty clause on veteran center Mehmet Okur, and said Utah isn't actively pursuing a trade involving Millsap.

The Jazz have an obvious excess buildup in the front court, creating potential for a package deal. In addition, the organization has a possible moveable piece in veteran guard Raja Bell, who did not meet expectations during 2010-11 and has two years remaining on a $6.7-million contract. A source close to Bell said Thursday that Utah hadn't given any indication it's looking to move him, though, and he could be a reliable backup for C.J. Miles or Gordon Hayward if either player claims the open starting shooting guard spot during training camp.

If the Jazz don't make a major move during free agency, it won't be because the team is being overly conservative or fiscally cautious. Instead, it'll be because the organization feels confident about its initial chances during a compressed 66-game season that will feature an abbreviated training camp and a chaotic free-agency period. With less time to prepare and make major changes, everything from team chemistry to young talent will be at a premium. The Jazz return a core trio of proven veterans in Al Jefferson, Devin Harris and Millsap, while second-year players Derrick Favors and Hayward showed promise toward the end of 2010-11.

The main areas the Jazz are expected to target during free agency: two backup point guard spots, small forward and perhaps shooting guard.
Harris is Utah's only point guard under contract. He is respected and well-liked by his teammates, and has expressed excitement about having a new start with the Jazz. But he has been injury-prone during his career — he missed seven games after joining Utah via trade on Feb. 23 and has only played in more than 70 contests three times in seven seasons.

Former Jazz point guard Ronnie Price told The Tribune on Thursday he wants to re-sign with Utah and considers the organization to be "family." If the team adds Price, the other point guard addition could be bulkier and/or have more of an outside shooting touch.

The small but speedy backup duo of Price and Earl Watson worked well for the Jazz last season, and complemented former starter Deron Williams. Harris is more of a drive-first point guard than a true outside shooter, though, which could leave Utah looking to add more muscle at the backup position in the attempt to create size mismatches.

Disappointing that they think this team can go anywhere as is with only minor changes. They certainly have movable pieces but I don't see Bell as one of them unless they make someone take him in a bigger deal for Jefferson/Harris/Okur or take on someone else's bad contract in exchange for theirs. If they are expected to target a small forward and shooting guard why not AK? Is there a sadder looking team out there right now?

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Old 12-02-2011, 02:09 AM   #40
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Who do you think they should get then besides a SF (and the Jazz still are very probable at getting AK even though I think he's a waste of money unless it's 4 million a year or less).
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:59 AM   #41
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I thought it was 2.5 million a year for AK? Hard to say who they should get. Who can they get for Harris/Jefferson/Okur/Bell/CJ? I'd look at another veteran big man, especially a center, if I got rid of those guys. They've liked Jeff Foster in the past. I'd look at a young pg the one position where they don't have a prospect. Patty Mills is in China so he's out. Josh Smith wants out. He'd make AK expendable. All the guys the Jazz should look to deal would make some sense for Atlanta. Dunleavy is out in Indiana. Another guy I figured the Jazz might target. Might be a good mentor for Haywood especially if AK is gone. Maybe they can be the third team NY needs on a Paul deal?
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:27 PM   #42
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I'd say it just depends on the moves they make and development of Hayward. I only expect in the 25-35 win range, but if they get average level replacements for their atrocious back court, then I'd say they have a shot. However, with a point guard who can't pass and a shooting guard who chucks like no other, they're bound to be pretty awful.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:10 AM   #43
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We need 3 point shooting. I'd love for us to go after Thaddeus Young though, he could be a great part of our future (even though not a 3 point specialist), very efficient player.

Here's a trade that I heard from one of the KFAN guys earlier today.

Okur for Farmar + Morrow. NJ saves 8 million in cap space (and only a 1 year deal), Jazz don't need to amnesty Memo and get a 3 point specialist in Morrow, and Farmar is a solid back-up.
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Sebastian Telfair has received interest from the New York Knicks, Utah Jazz and Los Angeles Lakers, according to sources. Telfair is excited for free agency because heíll be able to choose his next destination, which hasnít been the case early in his career. Since entering the league, Telfair has been traded multiple times, usually midseason. In fact, he hasnít played with the same team for more than two seasons at a time and heís had nine different head coaches. If Telfair lands in the right situation, with some structure, he could still be a significant contributor. HoopsWorld
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I'd say it just depends on the moves they make and development of Hayward. I only expect in the 25-35 win range, but if they get average level replacements for their atrocious back court, then I'd say they have a shot. However, with a point guard who can't pass and a shooting guard who chucks like no other, they're bound to be pretty awful.

Also an unproven coaching staff, no back-up pgs, inexperience, little defense especially if AK leaves, and a log jam at the 4 with no 5, etc., etc. Takes stars to win. They don't appear to have that right now.

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We need 3 point shooting. I'd love for us to go after Thaddeus Young though, he could be a great part of our future (even though not a 3 point specialist), very efficient player.

Here's a trade that I heard from one of the KFAN guys earlier today.

Okur for Farmar + Morrow. NJ saves 8 million in cap space (and only a 1 year deal), Jazz don't need to amnesty Memo and get a 3 point specialist in Morrow, and Farmar is a solid back-up.

Young would be nice but he's restricted so would seem unlikely. Is Corbin going to step into the 21st century as far as the 3 goes? Jerry certainly never embraced the shooting or defending of the shot.

Like the trade. Seems like one NJ might do as they seem to be going after the big FA's.
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