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Old 05-12-2011, 01:58 AM   #1
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Default Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

This is of course pure speculation, but remember, people who work in the game know a lot more than we do and can see trends developing well before the press and the messageboard clowns (us).

The Celtics may have beaten the Lakers last year with a healthy Kendrick Perkins, and Kendrick Perkins was seen as the key antidote to the Lakers imposing front line were they to meet again in this years finals. When Ainge dealt Perkins, the reaction from many Lakers was very positive.

Did Ainge see the decline of the Lakers and the rise of the Heat and just mess it up (while trying to get it right)?

He knew the biggest threat to the Celtics was the Heat and not the Lakers, so the acquisition of Jeff Green was to help them against the Heat. Asking Pierce, Allen and Rondo to rotate on and off Wade and LeBron for a long series would be too much to ask of them defensively.

So in a nutshell, Ainge knew what was going to happen, which teams were going to rise, so he pulled the trigger on a deal (smart). Unfortunately for Celtics fans, Jeff Green was not the right guy (not smart).

I think Ainge's instincts were correct, but his execution was poor.

Heat still dismantle the Celtics with Kendrick Perkins, but had the Celtics got a more competent wing (say Gerald Wallace?) the pendulum could have swung back in favor of the Celtics.

Pity.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

I think he also underestimated the chemistry the team had with Perk as well.

I understand his thinking, but maybe picking up a FA 3 man like Corey Brewer would have been better.

Also C's were unfortunate to not have Shaq and for Rondo to be injured.

I still think the Heat were too good for them this season regardless.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:10 AM   #3
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I think he also underestimated the chemistry the team had with Perk as well.

I understand his thinking, but maybe picking up a FA 3 man like Corey Brewer would have been better.

Also C's were unfortunate to not have Shaq and for Rondo to be injured.

I still think the Heat were too good for them this season regardless.


Yeah, the Heat were definitely tough, but I can't help thinking if they picked up a more competent 3 (what Jeff Green was supposed to be) Rondo might not even have been guarding Wade on that specific sequence where he got hurt, and Pierce and Allen may have had a little more in the tank on offense.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:11 AM   #4
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

Shaq playing well when perkins was injured, fooled him into thinking that they wouldn't need him. He gambled and paid a price for it. Just goes to show you how personell management is very key for a team.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:15 AM   #5
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Gerald Wallace on the Cs would've destroyed the Heat completely.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:21 AM   #6
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Gerald Wallace on the Cs would've destroyed the Heat completely.
Daymmnnn, but d'you reckon Crash would come off the bench?
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:41 AM   #7
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

Absolutely agree. I don't think Wallace would have come off the bench though... but what in the world was Ainge thinking with picking up Jeff Green? He was brought in for this exact series and could not live up to the hype. Kendrick Perkins was more to the Celtics than just depth.

It's unfortunate, but hindsight is 20/20.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:55 AM   #8
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

Honestly, I think he was afraid Perkins was going to end up in Miami. I know there were rumors of mutual interest.

Speaking of rumors of mutual interest, I found it interesting that Doc came out and said he's probably returning to Boston already. I guess he's concluded by now that Erik Spoelstra isn't going to be fired.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:57 AM   #9
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

I do feel like this is very likely and he had a smart idea in trading Perkins. I don't necessarily agree with the decision, but he was not the idiot that many felt he was when he made the trade. I feel like they could have gotten more for Perk though.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:58 AM   #10
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Crash on the C's wouldve been

Well actually Crash on the [insert team] wouldve been
Can't believe how dumb MJ is for giving him away for peanuts and a scrub
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:13 AM   #11
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That deal was just stupid.

He gave up Perkins a big time contributer and Robinson (instant offense/spark off the bench) for Green who got like 20 minutes a game in the playoffs and Kristic who played like 5 minutes a game.

The deal was unnecessary and they should've just went in the playoffs with Perkins and see where that would've gotten them. Breaking up the team during the trade deadline was stupid because it left a lot of guys lost on defense and even on offense sometimes. Then he signed random scrubs to fill out the roster (Pavlovic, Murphy, Arroyo) If the Celtics would've still fallen out of the playoffs earlier then they should've Ainge should've broken up the team this summer by not resigning Davis, S&T Perkins to another team, etc. Just so the new team he brought in would at least have the summer and training camp together to come as a team and not just throw different guys together and think you're going to win a championship again.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:13 AM   #12
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

It was a gamble deal with Perkins. He was gambling Shaq would've been healthy and the Celtics keeping the chemistry going.

It was mainly chemistry and injuries that did in the Celtics. Those guys didn't have enough time to play together, and the Heat was the better team. Wade and Bron gave them a lot of problems.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:13 AM   #13
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i think it was the right move.
what ainge could not forsee was rondo dislocating his elbow and shaq not coming back at all.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:33 AM   #14
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^Correct; Rondo and Shaq stay healthy and we're not having this discussion.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:05 AM   #15
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Default Re: Did Danny Ainge 'overthink the room'?

Agreed with the two posters above me entirely. People on talk radio around here are already trying to pin this series on Ainge and the trade and its just not holding any water with me. We lost because all of our guys failed to execute down the stretch, plain and simple.

The freak Rondo injury, Shaq being completely useless...just more variables in what was a doomed season.

I still applaud Ainge for having the sack to make the move he made and I look forward to seeing what he and Doc pull off this summer. September can't come soon enough!
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