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Old 05-16-2011, 01:21 AM   #31
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Like someone is going to choose a lifestyle that will get them discriminated against at the very least, and possibly worse than that.

No one chooses their sexuality. Straight people don't decide they want to be attracted to the opposite sex. Ask any straight guy why he's attracted to women. Pretty sure he didn't choose it. Just the way it is.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:25 AM   #32
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why?

Why does it takes more balls to tell it than not telling it?


Lol, you morons are already brainwashed.
I don't get the brainwashing. I am married and have 2 kids. I have friends who are gay. It doesn't bother me. I do not worry that they are not perpetuating the species. They are my friends because they are nice and interesting people. I have friends who are not gay. They are my friends because they are nice and interesting people. And, I do not spend any time at all thinking about what my gay or not gay friends do in bed. And, I think if they spent their time hiding their relationships or the fact they were gay it would take a lot of their time, thought, and effort, and they probably wouldn't be as nice, or interesting.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:38 AM   #33
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lol. Simple question: did you choose to be straight?


Bonus question: Can you tell everyone why you believe someone would choose to be gay?

1. If I was a hater, i would say it was imposed on me. But, actually, I was just led, it was not imposed. I remember being in love with a male friend in kindergarten. Also, i hated my father for being with my mother. Then it all fell naturally in its place and i fell in love with a girl. I can't imagine being gay because that's ****ing stupid, there's nothing i would find fascinating or even remotelly attractive on men. **** you.

2. Because he found more warmth and sincerity and bond in men then he did in women.

You shouldn't fantasize that much. Actually, most gay men started to ma5turbatee really early.. and that erodes a man in you. It's all about that and what kind of physical stimulation you've teached you body to have. People are not ****ing born gay. Lady Gaga is a satire.


It doesn't help words like ma5turbation are censored and it doesn't help SEX is such a big deal. You wank at that which is forbidden. All of this is common knowledge, but people enjoy to spam spam spam and wank.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:41 AM   #34
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Most gay people already know they're gay around the ages of 9-13, it just takes them a while to admit from obvious reasons.
It mostly happens for hormonal disorders.
Homosexuality is not a trend nor a choice it exists for way over 2000 years now, and in the animal kingdom as well.
Funnyfuka, you're a retard, I can't believe how archaic some people here are.
I hope your son will come out just to teach you a valuable lesson in life and to make you a better person.
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Old 05-16-2011, 01:51 AM   #35
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And i acknowledge the fact that when a person wanks himself away, and shoots up dry empty seemen devoid of ANY genom, into a naive stupid girl who just wants to stop having sex with negroes and gypsy Johnny-Depp-lookalikes, that this child might be born gay.

A black child might be born gay too, of course, if black daddy devoids his seemen of genom by fantasizing about white teen princesses all his life. Or, if his mother has such a nice ass that a child says 'well i've seen it all, now i want something different.' But that is not born gay anymore.

So yeah, here you have it. Wisdom.

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Old 05-16-2011, 02:03 AM   #36
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Of course you can't choose whether to be gay or not. Who in their right mind WOULD choose to be gay? Nobody. As dumb as the average human is, no one in their right mind would willingly put up with all the shit homosexuals have to deal with.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:32 AM   #37
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No, they really aren't. You're missing my point. I understand that EVERYBODY is allowed to enter into a STRAIGHT marriage contract, but that's against many of their wills. So a gay man being married is no different from the black men who would try to make themselves white (Homer Plessy is a perfect example of a man who smacked that right in the face (proving it can be done but showing that it's not right)). They aren't allowed to marry the way they would like to.

I'm not allowed to do a lot of things I don't want to do.

Everyone is allowed to do the exact same thing with regards to marriage. Just because some people dont like that does not mean its an unequal application.

50% of marriages are ending in divorce anyway. If there was no such thing as marriage, gay people probably wouldnt even care. What's really the point these days?

The ONLY reason they want it, is because they dont have it. They feel slighted. This is simply a battle to make them feel more accepted.

I don't personally see what's the point of complicating the institution of marriages just because some people want to stubbornly fight a battle over something that really doesnt matter.

I don't have any problem with homosexuals whatsoever. Supporting or opposing gay marriage is a completely different issue. But because you dont agree with my view you wish to twist it and make it an issue of bigotry which it is not.

It is you who is small minded and intolerant.
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:52 AM   #38
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Being gay is a matter of choice, no person is predetermined to be gay; that is not to say that certain individuals do not have sexual dispositions toward the same sex. It would be na´ve and false to hold that view. The issue has been and will be whether a person ought to act on those dispositions. That, of course, is an entirety different question and how you answer that question will be contingent sole on your world view; that is to say, under what basis you would be for or against gay marriage. I personally am against gay marriage. It seems for quite sometime now that proponents of gay marriage have been wrongly running behind the banner of inequality; they've quite nicely portrayed themselves as victims of bigoted, religious sectarians who are malevolent and backwards. It seems to me that our notion of equality has become distorted and has taken on a different connotations. Equality does not mean indifference nor does equality mean inclusively, as to include everything. Equality is discriminatory and we can't help but be prejudice, we are required to be so in virtue of not being apathetic and indifferent. It is one thing to say people are equal and it is another to say that all actions are equal. Gay marriage proponents are attempting to obscure the definitional lines of marriage; as it now stands marriage is a union between a man and a woman. In order to allow for gay marriage we have to redefine marriage as: a union between two people, as to not mention sex. The problem which we'll ensue is why stop there? Why not make it a union between 3 or 5 people? Thus another redefinition, vaguer and obscurer, such as: a union between people; but why 'only' between people why not interspeciesm? I'm sure someone will invoke how interracial marriage was wrong and prejudice why should I not marry my dog if I only truly 'love' em? Thus more obscure, a union between animate beings! But why stop there why couldn't I marry my own personal robot or toaster? Why not inanimate objects? The underlying problem with this sort of reasoning is why should we permit this sort of disposition? If you say out of love? Then what stops you from not permitting a pedophile who surely has a disposition and love towards a child? Perhaps, you'll restrict the qualifications so that it has to be based on consent of an adult, but why make that a qualification? If we may permit that qualification what about other restrictions that we have on marriage such as incense? Why can't a father marry his daughter if she's old enough? You might say because they might reproduce children who will bear defects but what if they would choose to become sterile as to not reproduce then what will be your excuse? People in todays society are too scared to call something for what it is rather we indifferently let nonsense like these pass by so in order not to be labeled bigots or close minded by other imbeciles running our nations medias. I see gay marriage as drastically inferior to straight marriage, and in virtue of that why should we promote an inferior, unnatural thing? It is inferior in its inability to reproduce children. It is inferior in its (potential) inability to provide a structural stable family where a child is disposed to both a man and a woman. Therefore, gay marriage is unequal not on the basis of biased discrimination but on the basis of nature.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:16 AM   #39
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Being gay is a matter of choice, no person is predetermined to be gay; that is not to say that certain individuals do not have sexual dispositions toward the same sex. It would be na´ve and false to hold that view. The issue has been and will be whether a person ought to act on those dispositions. That, of course, is an entirety different question and how you answer that question will be contingent sole on your world view; that is to say, under what basis you would be for or against gay marriage. I personally am against gay marriage. It seems for quite sometime now that proponents of gay marriage have been wrongly running behind the banner of inequality; they've quite nicely portrayed themselves as victims of bigoted, religious sectarians who are malevolent and backwards. It seems to me that our notion of equality has become distorted and has taken on a different connotations. Equality does not mean indifference nor does equality mean inclusively, as to include everything. Equality is discriminatory and we can't help but be prejudice, we are required to be so in virtue of not being apathetic and indifferent. It is one thing to say people are equal and it is another to say that all actions are equal. Gay marriage proponents are attempting to obscure the definitional lines of marriage; as it now stands marriage is a union between a man and a woman. In order to allow for gay marriage we have to redefine marriage as: a union between two people, as to not mention sex. The problem which we'll ensue is why stop there? Why not make it a union between 3 or 5 people? Thus another redefinition, vaguer and obscurer, such as: a union between people; but why 'only' between people why not interspeciesm? I'm sure someone will invoke how interracial marriage was wrong and prejudice why should I not marry my dog if I only truly 'love' em? Thus more obscure, a union between animate beings! But why stop there why couldn't I marry my own personal robot or toaster? Why not inanimate objects? The underlying problem with this sort of reasoning is why should we permit this sort of disposition? If you say out of love? Then what stops you from not permitting a pedophile who surely has a disposition and love towards a child? Perhaps, you'll restrict the qualifications so that it has to be based on consent of an adult, but why make that a qualification? If we may permit that qualification what about other restrictions that we have on marriage such as incense? Why can't a father marry his daughter if she's old enough? You might say because they might reproduce children who will bear defects but what if they would choose to become sterile as to not reproduce then what will be your excuse? People in todays society are too scared to call something for what it is rather we indifferently let nonsense like these pass by so in order not to be labeled bigots or close minded by other imbeciles running our nations medias. I see gay marriage as drastically inferior to straight marriage, and in virtue of that why should we promote an inferior, unnatural thing? It is inferior in its inability to reproduce children. It is inferior in its (potential) inability to provide a structural stable family where a child is disposed to both a man and a woman. Therefore, gay marriage is unequal not on the basis of biased discrimination but on the basis of nature.

I agree with most of your points, you should use some line breakers though!
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:38 AM   #40
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Yep, people choose to be gay, just like I choose to be straight. I remember it like it was yesterday. I woke up one Sunday morning when I was thirteen years old, looked myself deep in the mirror and said to myself, "You know what, I'm only going to get boners when I see hot chicks for now on. I mean dudes are cool too and it was a close race, but I think I'm going to give the edge to the hot chicks."

And that's how I became straight.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:44 AM   #41
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Yep, people choose to be gay, just like I choose to be straight. I remember it like it was yesterday. I woke up one Sunday morning when I was thirteen years old, looked myself deep in the mirror and said to myself, "You know what, I'm only going to get boners when I see hot chicks for now on. I mean dudes are cool too and it was a close race, but I think I'm going to give the edge to the hot chicks."

And that's how I became straight.
I think the only thing left to choose in being gay is wether to come out or not.
Obviously no one can choose their sexual orientation, but they can choose wether to hide it or not.

We saw many times in the past when some high officials, who were married and conservative. Who often spoke out against gays, got caught with male escorts and prostitutes.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:57 AM   #42
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I think the only thing left to choose in being gay is wether to come out or not.
Obviously no one can choose their sexual orientation, but they can choose wether to hide it or not.

We saw many times in the past when some high officials, who were married and conservative. Who often spoke out against gays, got caught with male escorts and prostitutes.

Indeed, they can choose whether or not they want to hide it. Can you blame them for hiding it and/or pretending to be heterosexual though? What better way to hide your homosexuality than to be an openly homophobic douchebag?? You know. . . the loud guys who goes ape sh!t if you even compliment him in anyway? As we all know, being a homosexual is looked down upon. It's pretty common for most of today's youth to refer to something undesirable as being "gay". If it's bad . . .a negative . . ."that's gay". I can't even count how many times one user has referred to another as a "*******" "phaggit" "faqqot" ( insert the other cute ways of writing the word) on this forum. It's appalling.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:30 AM   #43
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they def do choose it. its an option. they are born w some fuked up hormones but still make a decision on what to do with it. ever hear of ppl bein gay n straight both at the same time? or ppl turning gay in their 40s after marriage n 4 kids? is that also a "being born with" trait? hell no.

so no u dont make a decision to be straight thats what fukin nature made u. nature didnt make u gay u turn ur self into a queer. in the process of the puberty or in even later yrs some guys (gays) have more attraction towards the same sex then others. they CHOOSE to follow those attraction traits more and more which makes them become fa gots. they explore into that world. most dudes w those traits will not admit ever to having them n do whatever they can to get away from those traits n f uck more females.
ever hear of dudes who cant get laid turning gay?
it is def a choice, just like vag inal or ana l sex
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Indeed, they can choose whether or not they want to hide it. Can you blame them for hiding it and/or pretending to be heterosexual though? What better way to hide your homosexuality than to be an openly homophobic douchebag?? You know. . . the loud guys who goes ape sh!t if you even compliment him in anyway? As we all know, being a homosexual is looked down upon. It's pretty common for most of today's youth to refer to something undesirable as being "gay". If it's bad . . .a negative . . ."that's gay". I can't even count how many times one user has referred to another as a "*******" "phaggit" "faqqot" ( insert the other cute ways of writing the word) on this forum. It's appalling.
Well that is sadly true, but at least we, in the wester world are miles ahead than what it used to be before, or how it is in other countries... (Iran, Pakistan - where you could face prison or execution if caught in a homosexual act or behavior.)
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Wow; someone wrote like a two-page essay.
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