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Old 05-22-2011, 02:04 PM   #751
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So again, my only problem with kobe/lakers fans is that they act like Dirk has played with the same amount of help
Who said that? Seriously, this is like all the Jordan guys saying there's so many people here saying Kobe>MJ
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Old 05-22-2011, 02:34 PM   #752
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Who said that? Seriously, this is like all the Jordan guys saying there's so many people here saying Kobe>MJ
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Old 05-22-2011, 02:55 PM   #753
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Well, in our defense, you guys acted like complete nut jobs after winning sweeping us.

The only problem I have with Mavericks fans are when they say Dirk has no help and is a one-man team. Not true.



WRONG

what we have always said is that compared to teams that won the championship Dirk has had very little help.

Jason Terry has been his best scoring help the last 6 years. JASON TERRY. Dude is a decent undersized SG sure but he is still just the Dallas version of Mo Williams and still a guy that comes off the bench. Josh Howard was around a bit but he kept getting hurt and he had a mental meltdown.

Dirk's centers that have started next to him before Tyson Chandler? Shawn Bradley, Calvin Booth, Raef LaFrentz, Eric Dampier and DeSegana Diop. Last year when they traded for Brendan Haywood not only was there talk he may be the best C that Dirk had ever played with but also the best center in Mavs history!


The only two allstars he has played with since Nash left are Josh Howard and Jason Kidd and both were only there b/c multiple guys ahead of them were injured and in Kidd's case the AS game happened to be in Dallas and a blizzard hit shutting down the airport. It was just a nice gesture towards Kidd more than anything.

The coaching under Rick Carlisle is also way better than under Don Nelson or Avery Johnson. Nellie was all offense while Avery was all D. Hell, Avery's offense was SO friggin predictable that Dallas became one of the easiest teams to defend. It was all either a pick and pop or an iso with 90% of it starting on the left side which made it very easy for teams to load up on them. Avery wouldn't even let Kidd run a fastbreak (which is what got him fired after begging for a real PG) and would instead force them to walk the ball up the court as he called out a play on EVERY possession.

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Old 05-22-2011, 03:37 PM   #754
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WHY WON'T YOU MAKE EXCUSES FOR MY DIRK

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Old 05-22-2011, 03:51 PM   #755
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:52 PM   #756
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Nobody has said "Dirk has no help whatsoever and its a 1 man team"

We simply say that Dirk has played with significantly less help than Kobe. Which is true. So when the stans flash up rings arguments its silly......

Dirk obviously is getting a lot of help right now. Funny how the Mavs are having one of their best runs ever. Why? Dirk isn't playing any better than he normally does. So could it be that the amount of help these players get actually matters? What a shocking revelation.

And the two new studies just drive this home.

Dirk has played what is considered a good game in 31.9% of his playoff games
Kobe has played what is considered a good game in 23.6% of his playoff games

Mavs have won 72% of those games
Lakers have won 88.6% of those games

Dirk has played what is considered a bad game in 26.5% of his playoff games
Kobe has played what is considered a bad game in 27% of his playoff games

Mavs have won 30% of those games
Lakers have won 40% of those games

So again, my only problem with kobe/lakers fans is that they act like Dirk has played with the same amount of help. LOL....its simply not true and takes some of the shine off of those "how many rings does player x have" comments

So glad we finally have even more evidence to shut them the **** up. Good day.

That part is fair, but you and a couple of other Mavericks fans have obviously been much worse with your hyperbole, and you know it.

Doesn't even cover the blatant trolling you guys did after the Lakers series. That, despite deservedly celebrating a monster performance by your team, was uncalled for.
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Old 05-22-2011, 04:20 PM   #757
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That part is fair, but you and a couple of other Mavericks fans have obviously been much worse with your hyperbole, and you know it.

Doesn't even cover the blatant trolling you guys did after the Lakers series. That, despite deservedly celebrating a monster performance by your team, was uncalled for.
Actually the only guy trolling was thomaspynchon, but in a cool way. The trolling was much worse by LA "fans" like braincunt etc who constantly invade our gamethreads.
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Old 05-22-2011, 04:32 PM   #758
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Doesn't even cover the blatant trolling you guys did after the Lakers series. That, despite deservedly celebrating a monster performance by your team, was uncalled for.

come on now.

even if every single Mavs fan on this board went into full troll mode there is no way we could ever match the horseshit that spews from Hulk Hogan and Branslowski.
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Mavs should win Game 4 with ease as they have built up "goodwill" after the game 3 officiating.
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Old 05-22-2011, 06:02 PM   #760
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Don't think they'll need the good will to take game 4. They play D like they did and Dirk doesn't have another bad game they win by double digits in a roughly evenly called game. I think if Dallas wins game 4 and go back to DAllas with a chance to close the Thunder out THEN you'll see the ridiculous home cooking go in Dallas' favor.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:10 PM   #761
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Actually the only guy trolling was thomaspynchon, but in a cool way. The trolling was much worse by LA "fans" like braincunt etc who constantly invade our gamethreads.

Not really. gino was trolling left and right, saying stuff like, "Kobe quit again. What a f*cking loser." etc etc
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Not really. gino was trolling left and right, saying stuff like, "Kobe quit again. What a f*cking loser." etc etc

I wasn't even trolling. I am actually shocked that my boys absolutely destroyed the lakers. I thought my boys would win in 6.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:49 AM   #763
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Not really. gino was trolling left and right, saying stuff like, "Kobe quit again. What a f*cking loser." etc etc

Its not trolling when its true.

Kobe and his team have a pattern of laying down when the going gets tough like that.

But I have every right to continue to troll a select group of kobe stans on this board after all the trolling/hate they gave the Mavs and Dirk this year.

I even wrote a disclaimer that all of my posts are not meant for the true Kobe fans and Lakers fans.

And, if the Mavs do lose this series or don't win it all. Watch what your beloved Lakers/Kobe fans do on this board. So I'd tap the breaks a little before you start calling me or other Mavs fans out. The fan base you are part of will be much much worse.

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Who said that? Seriously, this is like all the Jordan guys saying there's so many people here saying Kobe>MJ

Plenty of people

Plenty. You have your buddy Brans claiming that Gasol would have won multiple titles playing on the Mavs instead of Dirk.......and no, he wasn't trolling or joking. He was serious.

And do you ever even pay attention to what this board is? Its a Kobe love fest with your buddies constantly posting U MAD? pictures with Kobe and his 5 rings.

So lets not act like people don't do this. They do it all the time. And all I ever hear is that Dirk's teams were great and they should have won a bunch of titles.

LOL.....it was dumb then, and its dumb now. Now we just happen to have 20 plus years of data showing that Dirk's teams overall have given him less help than any superstar since 1991 in the playoffs other than Lebron in Cleveland and KG in Minny.

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come on now.

even if every single Mavs fan on this board went into full troll mode there is no way we could ever match the horseshit that spews from Hulk Hogan and Branslowski.

Meh, at least those two admit to trolling. That gyno kid just likes to pretend he's engaging in legitimate arguments when most of the time he just contradicts himself.

Honestly, I'd like to do a poll or something. I can't name more than 3-4 bad Kobe fans... most of them are the same guy.
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