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Old 05-26-2011, 02:57 PM   #16
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Default Re: Things that were fishy about the 2006 NBA finals?

If you want to complain about 2006, could I make a humble request? Could you at least be balanced about it? Highlight the questionable calls, but please acknowledge Wade's legend-level clutch play in the 4th quarters of Games 3 and 5.

Also, watch the first half of Game 4. Observe the jumpshots. Gripe about some of the calls if you will, but then marvel at the will of Dwyane Wade to win that championship.

And then please process the fact that this was a THIRD YEAR PLAYER in his first NBA Finals. (Shouldn't he have had, you know, stage fright?)

The narrative of this series has evolved into Wade doing nothing but shooting free throws. He did much more than that. Please go back and watch the games or at least the highlights.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:01 PM   #17
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Please go back and watch the games or at least the highlights.
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The 06 finals being rigged are on of the biggest misconceptions right along with Shaq flat out carrying Kobe in the last 2 chips they won together. Go back and watch the f*king games you fools,stop learning basketball history on ISH.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:02 PM   #18
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The narrative of this series has evolved into Wade doing nothing but shooting free throws. He did much more than that. Please go back and watch the games or at least the highlights.
Payton and Wade made plenty of clutch shots, as did Terry and Nowitzki. Props to all of them.

The only difference was that in addition to clutch shots, Miami got a TON of free throws.

Watch game 5......Miami got 46 ft, dallas got 15.


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Old 05-26-2011, 03:04 PM   #19
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I remember reading a thread here where someone made a list of the thing that were fishy in the 2006 NBA finals and it really made it hard to dispute something was up with the way that series was officiated.Anyone know where that thread is?

Right here:

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws?

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls committed by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls committed by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything.

Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting team, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.

Quick facts:
--Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
--In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
--Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.



That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:


Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.



Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.



Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win. No controversy here

Wade had the best Finals performance in NBA History... Putting the team on his back in the Final 4 games (all wins) and scored over 35 pts per game in each one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...rforma nces-1

^ GREATEST Finals Performance EVER !!

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Old 05-26-2011, 03:05 PM   #20
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The 06 finals being rigged are on of the biggest misconceptions.
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If you want to complain about 2006, could I make a humble request? Could you at least be balanced about it? Highlight the questionable calls, but please acknowledge Wade's legend-level clutch play in the 4th quarters of Games 3 and 5.

Also, watch the first half of Game 4. Observe the jumpshots. Gripe about some of the calls if you will, but then marvel at the will of Dwyane Wade to win that championship.

And then please process the fact that this was a THIRD YEAR PLAYER in his first NBA Finals. (Shouldn't he have had, you know, stage fright?)

The narrative of this series has evolved into Wade doing nothing but shooting free throws. He did much more than that. Please go back and watch the games or at least the highlights.

Wade was amazing. He wast easily the best player in the series and Miami earned it.

My only complaint in the entire series was game 5. I think it was one of the most one sided games in playoff history. And after Dirk made that jumper over shaq to put the mavs up 1 with 10 seconds left.........

I thought the next play was pathetic. Wade carried the ball and then proceeded to just shove jason terry to the ground and then got a questionable foul call to get to the line.

i would prefer a player have to actually make a shot if he goes 1 on 5 like that and commits an offensive foul along with traveling.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:15 PM   #22
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I never saw anything indicating that the Mavs got screwed in 06. The only thing I saw was a team that had choked 1000 times before choke for the 1001st time.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:17 PM   #23
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Payton and Wade made plenty of clutch shots, as did Terry and Nowitzki. Props to all of them.

The only difference was that in addition to clutch shots, Miami got a TON of free throws.

Watch game 5......Miami got 46 ft, dallas got 15.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKPU...eature=related

Other players hit shots but not like Wade. The Game 3 4th quarter comeback is what most people (those don't refuse him to give any credit at all) remember, but that wasn't his most clutch sequence of the series. That was "only" 13 pts in six minutes and the game saving defensive play.

No, Wade's most amazing sequence-- the most amazing sequence in the NBA Finals since Jordan's drive/steal/shot against the Jazz-- was in the controversial Game 5. Everybody knows what happened in OT, but watch the last 2:30 of the 4th quarter.

Wade scored 9 pts in that stretch-- a runner-and-one, a jumpshot, another jumpshot, and a runner to send the game in OT. And every single one of those hoops were in situations where the Heat absolutely had to have a basket.

I have that game on my laptop, and I have to figure out how to put those last two on minutes youtube-- how to make a youtube video, I mean. It's the biggest refutation to the notion that all Wade did was get whistles.
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do people keep bringing this up in hope of preventing it from happening again?
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do people keep bringing this up in hope of preventing it from happening again?
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Ive always found posters who make novels to prove their point the scariest stans! lol but thats passion definitely.

When NBA analysts talk about the mystique of 2006 finals and the calls much similar to WCF with LA and SAC, THere is a clear Bias.

I think the games will be called loose with no crazy calls. When there is too much talk and evidence of bias NBA will want to make sure it doesnt get revisited in 2011.
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When there is too much talk and evidence of bias NBA will want to make sure it doesnt get revisited in 2011.
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nobody brings up josh howard's stupid timeout that didn't allow the mavs to advance the ball in the final 2 seconds of ot. mavs could've still won.
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I never saw anything indicating that the Mavs got screwed in 06. The only thing I saw was a team that had choked 1000 times before choke for the 1001st time.
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Default Re: Things that were fishy about the 2006 NBA finals?

Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. The reason that people still talk about that series is that it didn't pass the eyeball test. Forget stats; you could simply watch the games and see that something was wrong.

Why was it that after the series, so many people questioned whether it was rigged? Has any Finals in the past decade drawn as much doubt as to the officiating? No.

I remember having loads of friends who were casual observers of the game ask me why the series was rigged.

So, I'm going to watch all of the games again, as someone has already suggested, but the memory of how the series went down, and the overwhelming reaction to it among fans and non-fans was enough to convince me that something just wasn't right.
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