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Old 05-28-2011, 03:35 PM   #31
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Good analysis and I totally agree.

Detroit's fans should be livid if this goes down. Hamilton's deal sucks, but they need talent at every position, with Monroe being the only guy on the team who's a definite keeper, and he's still not good enough to be top three guy on an elite team. Why do they need cap space so bad right now anyways? Lebron James or someone isn't going to save them and they really should be focused on acquiring guys in their early 20s now, since someone who's a free agent now will be over the hill by the time the team is good again (which will be at least another three years). Besides, if they wait a year, Rip "Awful Untradeable Contract" Hamilton becomes Rip "Big Expiring Contract To a Player Who Can Contribute" Hamilton.

This is a weak ass draft and chances are that Detroit will be in the lottery again next year where the talent pool is much better. If I was a Piston fan, I wouldn't mind the trade at all.
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And how many other times has that worked out and who is the Durant in this scenario?
I'm not saying that there is a Durant in this scenario, just that -- if we are attempting to follow the OKC model (which it appears is the case) -- this is exactly how they built themselves into a contender.

Now, they got lucky by falling into the No. 2 spot in a year with Durant in the draft and Portland taking Oden first. Luck plays a big role in this thing... But, that is the case with anything in sports.

All you can do is put yourself in the best possible position to rebuild a franchise and I think that keeping the three picks does it more than trading 4 and 8 for 2.

That said, I'm certainly not completely against bringing in Irving and Williams... That would make for a pretty exciting 2012 season.
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Why the **** would Minny give up their 2nd pick?
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Why the **** would Minny give up their 2nd pick?

Why not? They already have a #1 ranked Div 1 college basketball team. Who cares about the #2 pick when they've been drafting lottery for quite some time now.
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Why not? They already have a #1 ranked Div 1 college basketball team. Who cares about the #2 pick when they've been drafting lottery for quite some time now.
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But won't they get 4th and 8th? That'll give them more draft picks. Why not just take Derick Williams instead of getting 2 players that are worse?
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Why the **** would Minny give up their 2nd pick?

because Minnesota doesn't need another SF/PF.

The Wolves got Kevin Love, Michael Beasley, Anthony Randolph,and Wesley Johnson.
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But won't they get 4th and 8th? That'll give them more draft picks. Why not just take Derick Williams instead of getting 2 players that are worse?

Because its Minnesota...they love stockpiling lottery picks that play the same position.

They could draft Enes Kanter which fills a need. But then what? They either draft another Center at 8 or draft a player that plays the same position as the other picks they drafted the last 2-3yrs.
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Bismack Biyombo defensive presence is just what Minnesota needs.
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Makes sense for everybody except Detroit. CLE gets a lot of hope for the future. MIN already has plenty of players that can still become good-great at PG & SF. They slide down and perhaps get the same player @ 4 that they wanted @ 2.
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Makes sense for everybody except Detroit. CLE gets a lot of hope for the future. MIN already has plenty of players that can still become good-great at PG & SF. They slide down and perhaps get the same player @ 4 that they wanted @ 2.

Bingo

Derrick Williams and Kyrie Irving is a great way to rebuild a team that was once a contender.

Minnesota either drafts Enes or Bismack and trade their other pick for some veterans.
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Forgot to mention that if trade happens Cavs would buy out Rip Hamilton. But may be smart to wait & see if amnesty clause in new CBA....

Broussard just tweeted this
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Bingo

Derrick Williams and Kyrie Irving is a great way to rebuild a team that was once a contender.

Minnesota either drafts Enes or Bismack and trade their other pick for some veterans.

Bismack at 4? Thats hilarious. Do it Minny!

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