Boxing Discussion Thread

[Vragrant]

Broners' post fight antics were disgraceful. The thing that made it worse is that immediately after the fight Malignaggi went up to Broner paid his respects and congratulated him on a good fight. After all that youre' going to say you took his belt and his girl? C'mon man that just aint cool, VERY disrespectful especially in the guys' hometown.

I had that fight as a draw but it could have easily gone either way. I disagree with the many opinions (not here specifically) that Broner won clearly and convincingly. He just was not active enough, and got outworked in a lot of rounds.

His power is pedestrian at welter, but that being said I was always reluctant to label him a power puncher. I mean who has he really fought? The only real name he fought was Ponce De Leon and I think he lost that fight. Funny enought Abner Mares KO'd him just a couple of months ago.

I wonder how Broner is going to do with a guy his size who actually can punch?

[L.Kizzle]

Originally Posted by Vragrant

Broners' post fight antics were disgraceful. The thing that made it worse is that immediately after the fight Malignaggi went up to Broner paid his respects and congratulated him on a good fight. After all that youre' going to say you took his belt and his girl? C'mon man that just aint cool, VERY disrespectful especially in the guys' hometown.

I had that fight as a draw but it could have easily gone either way. I disagree with the many opinions (not here specifically) that Broner won clearly and convincingly. He just was not active enough, and got outworked in a lot of rounds.

Paulie threw over 300+ more punches than him, but Broner landed 30+ more. You can't really say he outworked him, when he didn't outland him. Broner was blocking most of his punches.

I do agree about the post-fight interview.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

Originally Posted by L.Kizzle

Paulie's never been knocked out before, why did so many expect a KO? I give that performance a B for Broner and an A for Paulie.

I thought Paulie slowed down big time especially in the fight vs Cano. That is why I expected him to get knocked out.

Originally Posted by Tarik One

Stylistically, I see a lot more Andre Berto in Broner than Floyd Mayweather and that is why I think he will get knocked out once the clever matchmaking is out the window.

Nah Berto's problem is his stamina. He is more of a sprinter than a long distance runner while Broner/Mayweather are long distance runners. You will notice in BErto's fights he starts slowing down big time towards the 2nd half of his fights.

Mayweather has a defensive mentality with exceptional offense while Broner has a offensive mentality with solid defense.

[iamgine]

Originally Posted by WWRWestbrookDo?

Nah Berto's problem is his stamina. He is more of a sprinter than a long distance runner while Broner/Mayweather are long distance runners. You will notice in BErto's fights he starts slowing down big time towards the 2nd half of his fights.

Mayweather has a defensive mentality with exceptional offense while Broner has a offensive mentality with solid defense.

Shouldn't that be easy to fix? I mean isn't stamina something that anyone can increase within months of training? I don't understand this "his problem is stamina" thing.

[Pointguard]

Originally Posted by iamgine

Shouldn't that be easy to fix? I mean isn't stamina something that anyone can increase within months of training? I don't understand this "his problem is stamina" thing.

We all have a natural trained stamina, Berto is about 7 rounds, that is hard to exceed. But after constant training over years you can move beyond it. George Forman in his 20's had a 6 round stamina thing that went sour hard around the 7th round. However, in his thirties he was able to get it up to 12 rounds. But it takes a lot of work, will and knowing your body to double your ring time. It isn't something I think you can do fight to fight but over the whole course of the year dedicated to expanding lung capacity.

[L.Kizzle]

June 29
HBO Boxing After Dark

Gennady Golovkin vs. Matthew Macklin for Golovkin's WBA and IBO Middleweight Championships


July 19
Showtime Championship Boxing
Ishe Smith vs. Carlos Molina for Smith's IBF Junior Middleweight Championship
Mickey Bey vs. John Molina
Badou Jack vs. Farah Ennis


July 20
Fox Sports
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DeMarcus "Chop Chop" Corley vs. Frankie Gomez


July 27
Showtime Championship Boxing
Knockout Kings II

Andre Berto vs. Jesus Sota Karass
Keith Thurman vs. Diego Gabriel Chaves [WBO Welterweight Eliminator] for the WBO Intercontinental Welterweight and Interim WBA World Welterweight Championships
Omar Figueroa vs. Nihito Arakawa for the vacant Interim WBC Lightweight Championship
HBO Boxing After Dark
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Zou Shiming vs. Jesus Ortega
Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Milan Melindo for Estrada’s WBO and WBA Super World Flyweight Championships
Evgeny Gradovich vs. Mauricio Javier Munoz for Gradovich’s Featherweight Championship


August 3
NBCSN Fight Night
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Curtis Stevens vs. Saul Roman
Eddie Chambers vs.Thabiso Mchunu
Tomasz Adamek vs. Tony Grano


August 9
SHO BOX
Deontay Wilder vs. Siarhei Liakhovich for Wilder's WBC Continental Americas Heavyweight Championship
Jermall Charlo vs. TBA


August 17
HBO Boxing After Dark

Nathan Cleverly vs. Sergey Kovalev for Cleverly’s WBO Light-Heavyweight Championship
Daniel Geale vs Darren Barker for Geale's IBF Middleweight Championship


August 24
Showtime Championship Boxing
Abner Mares vs. Jhonny Gonzalez Mares' WBC Featherweight Championship
Victor Terrazas vs. Leo Santa Cruz for Terrazas' WBC Junior Featherweight


August 31
Showtime Championship Boxing

Bernard Hopkins vs. Karo Murat for Hopkins' IBF Light-Heavyweight Championship
Gary Russell, Jr. vs. TBA


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HBO Boxing After Dark
Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. vs. Brian Vera


September 14
Showtime PPV
THE ONE

Floyd Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez for the WBC Light Middleweight, and WBA Super Middleweight and the Ring Magazine/Lineal Championships



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Showtime Championship Boxing
Miguel Cotto vs. Cornelius 'K9' Bundrage


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Wladimir Klitschko vs. Alexander Povetkin for Klitschko's IBO, IBF, WBO and WBA Super Heavyweight Championships


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HBO PPV
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Showtime Championship Boxing
Zab Judah vs. TBA
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HBO PPV
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[PK3434]

I'm hearing horrible rumors that Garcia vs Judah 2 could happen instead of Garcia vs Matthyse....I'm praying that this is just a bs rumor.

Danny doesn't seem like a guy that would blatantly duck someone...

And if its Al Haymon that is behind this, then fu*k him...how is a manager the most powerful man in boxing? I'm so glad hbo got tired of his bs and told him to kick rocks.

[L.Kizzle]

Broner-Malignaggi scored a higher rating than Canelo-Trout, that is surprising.

Broner-Malignaggi is actually the 2nd highest Showtime audience ever, with only Cotto-Trout outdoing them from last year.

[BrooklynZoo]

Originally Posted by L.Kizzle

Broner-Malignaggi scored a higher rating than Canelo-Trout, that is surprising.

Broner-Malignaggi is actually the 2nd highest Showtime audience ever, with only Cotto-Trout outdoing them from last year.

i guess the trash talking they did worked. As far as the fight goes, I was impressed with Broner when he was busy and throwing punches. The problem is he wasn't throwing them for half the fight as either Paulie's style was throwing him off or he was coasting and sizing him up for too long. Paulie displayed a good chin as he took his punches really well and was never seriously hurt in the fight. If Paulie had any type of power this would have been a much more interesting fight. At times it looked almost comical the way he seemed to be just touching AB with his gloves. Paulie won his rounds due to his punch rate and AB's inactivity, while Broner won most of his rounds pretty decidedly with thumping punches. I had the fight around 116-112 Broner, despite rooting for the hometown Malignaggi (and I dont know where he was coming from with his "fix" rant at the end. I'm surprised a judge had the fight in his favor)

[SCREWstonRockets]

Originally Posted by L.Kizzle

Broner-Malignaggi scored a higher rating than Canelo-Trout, that is surprising.

Broner-Malignaggi is actually the 2nd highest Showtime audience ever, with only Cotto-Trout outdoing them from last year.

Showtime had their free preview this weekend so perhaps that helped?

[L.Kizzle]

Originally Posted by SCREWstonRockets

Showtime had their free preview this weekend so perhaps that helped?

They said the free preview didn't count, only subscribers.

Broner had the 2 highest numbers for this year as his fight vs. Gavin Reese did 1.4 Mill. That really says something about how much more viewers HBO has than Showtime. If his fight vs. Paulie was on HBO, it's doing 2.0+.

Tyson Fury had a 1.7 if I remember correctly for his fight a few months back on NBC Sports. But not sure how those numbers were calculated. It didn't even air in America live.

[Tarik One]

I'm at the Floyd/Canelo fight promo RIGHT NOW. I'm looking right at them from 20 feet away. De La Hoya as well.

[L.Kizzle]

Originally Posted by Tarik One

I'm at the Floyd/Canelo fight promo RIGHT NOW. I'm looking right at them from 20 feet away. De La Hoya as well.

I'll be at the one in Houston next Monday.

[lefthook00]

Nice Oscar Da La Hoya highlight. One of my 5 favorite fighters of all time. Was such a beast, win or lose. Always fought the best until the end of his career. Epic chin, good size and speed, one of the best jabs in the biz, and man what a left hook.

He really could have been an all-time great if he tweaked his game plans a bit in his mega fights, chilled out on the booze, had better conditioning, and developed his right hand a bit more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doSXJCS3B7U

[SCREWstonRockets]

Originally Posted by L.Kizzle

They said the free preview didn't count, only subscribers.

Broner had the 2 highest numbers for this year as his fight vs. Gavin Reese did 1.4 Mill. That really says something about how much more viewers HBO has than Showtime. If his fight vs. Paulie was on HBO, it's doing 2.0+.

Tyson Fury had a 1.7 if I remember correctly for his fight a few months back on NBC Sports. But not sure how those numbers were calculated. It didn't even air in America live.

Yea Broner has done drawn very well so far in his young career. I heard somewhere that the past 3 or 4 Showtime fights have been the highest ever for SHO sports.