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Old 10-06-2013, 12:02 PM   #2461
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Maybe Cotto can end the Cold War. A Canelo vs Cotto fight would be huge and Cotto has good relationships with both top rank and golden boy!





Probably not, though
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:08 PM   #2462
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Terrence Crawford disappointing me. His opponent should have been gone in 5 rounds. He is no where near Adrien Broner level, he is a good young prospect though.

I still think Crawford would beat Adrien Broner. Crawford still easily won every round against an undefeated opponent. He's much more well-rounded than Broner.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #2463
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I still think Crawford would beat Adrien Broner. Crawford still easily won every round against an undefeated opponent. He's much more well-rounded than Broner.
Broner would have knocked him out. Klimov's biggest win was against John Molina.

Broner would kill Crawford.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:26 PM   #2464
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Broner would have knocked him out. Klimov's biggest win was against John Molina.

Broner would kill Crawford.

Knocking out someone doesn't make someone better. Crawford has pretty decent power himself. Klimov may have had a solid chin. And Molina was a decent win at lightweight.

Broner looked like shit against Paulie. Broner's biggest win besides Paulie was DeMarco (nothing special). Crawford may not have as much power, but he's got better footwork, defense.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:37 PM   #2465
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Knocking out someone doesn't make someone better. Crawford has pretty decent power himself. Klimov may have had a solid chin. And Molina was a decent win at lightweight.

Broner looked like shit against Paulie. Broner's biggest win besides Paulie was DeMarco (nothing special). Crawford may not have as much power, but he's got better footwork, defense.
Of course knocking out an opponent don't make you better, but Broner would have knocked him out.

Broner also has good wins vs. Ponce De Leon and Gavin Reese, all who were former champs.

Not saying Crawford isn't nice, but HBO/Top Rank is trying to hype him up as the next best thing to Broner. Everytime he fights on HBO, Max just happens to bring Broner's name into the conversation.

We'll see when Crawford can finally land a title fight. They've been talking of Burns or Beltran for him next. He should move up to 140 really, so he can fight the Alvarado's and Karim Mayfield's of the world.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #2466
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Of course knocking out an opponent don't make you better, but Broner would have knocked him out.

Broner also has good wins vs. Ponce De Leon and Gavin Reese, all who were former champs.

Not saying Crawford isn't nice, but HBO/Top Rank is trying to hype him up as the next best thing to Broner. Everytime he fights on HBO, Max just happens to bring Broner's name into the conversation.

We'll see when Crawford can finally land a title fight. They've been talking of Burns or Beltran for him next. He should move up to 140 really, so he can fight the Alvarado's and Karim Mayfield's of the world.

lol have you seen that fight?
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:56 PM   #2467
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lol have you seen that fight?
It was a good win name wise. When you got Ponce on your record for a win as a 20 year old boxer, that is a good thing.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:58 PM   #2468
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lol have you seen that fight?

who do you think wins between Broner vs Maidana? i wanna see your answer now before you switch up your stance and try to discredit that win like you did with Mayweather when he beat Canelo
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It was a good win name wise. When you got Ponce on your record for a win as a 20 year old boxer, that is a good thing.

except that most people felt that he lost...


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who do you think wins between Broner vs Maidana? i wanna see your answer now before you switch up your stance and try to discredit that win like you did with Mayweather when he beat Canelo

what?
I give Floyd full credit! That was the fight I wanted to see!
I was hating on the Guerrero choice...

hmmmm, hard to say
I pick Maidana!
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Wladimir Klitschko beating Povetkin by UD

What a disgraceful performance by Wladimir! He should have been disqualified and fined for waisting our time. What a *****. I followed both K's carrer very closely but I can't watch that nonsense anymore.....
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Old 10-06-2013, 03:46 PM   #2471
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That was an ugly fight, but Povetkin had absolutely nothing for him. When he wasn't leaning on him, Klitschko was rag-dolling him around the ring like he was a middleweight.

Povetkin's tough though.
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Wladimir Klitschko beating Povetkin by UD

What a disgraceful performance by Wladimir! He should have been disqualified and fined for waisting our time. What a *****. I followed both K's carrer very closely but I can't watch that nonsense anymore.....

Yeah that was ridiculous. Every good veteran fighter gets away with illegal tactics but that was over the top. The ref had no balls, whatsoever.
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:18 PM   #2473
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Cold War is not ending. I mean, they just had a little rift the other day with Arum saying Canelo is a free agent and Scahfer shooting back that Bob is false and Canelo is under long term contract. Schafer also has said he has no reason to work with Top Rank, ever again. Then you add HBO vs SHOWTIME to the mix and you have no fight.

Cotto-Martinez has to be the fight to be.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:12 PM   #2474
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except that most people felt that he lost...




what?
I give Floyd full credit! That was the fight I wanted to see!
I was hating on the Guerrero choice...

hmmmm, hard to say
I pick Maidana!
The same people who thought Broner lost are the same people who thought Matthysse beat Alexander and Judah.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:19 PM   #2475
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And people wonder why the heavyweight division has been dying a slow death. I'm not going to blame it solely on the Klits, but their reign has been nothing short of snooze-worthy. That performance Saturday night was one of the most pathetic bouts I've seen in a long time.

Vlad Klit could have beaten Povetkin pretty much any way he chose to do so. That's bad enough, but to choose to lay on a guy for 12 rounds? Why even bother continuing? The most humorous part of the evening was when Lampley said something to the effect of, "When Floyd Mayweather avoids being hit, they call him the best, but when Vlad does it, people criticize."

Are you serious, pal? There was nothing remotely skillful about what Klit was doing in there.

It's time for the Klits to go away.
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