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Old 06-20-2011, 01:10 PM   #31
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I've seen Alvarez maybe 5 or more times now and he is definitely getting better each time he fights.


Shame Rhodes couldn't hang in there, thought he gave it his all, I don't remember him trying to hold on once. Shame he couldn't get more punches off.


You can't forget just how young that kid is, people will go on about his record, but he is moving up levels quickly now and fighting people at least with enough heart to make him work.


I don't want to jump on the band wagon, but this kid is gonna be great.
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:22 PM   #32
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I made a similar point about Andre Ward about a month ago...

He has all of the tangible things that general sports fans usually look for in their 'golden boy' fighters -- aside from style -- and yet he is almost completely unknown outside of hardcore boxing circles...

Gold Medalist - check
World Champion - check
Undefeated - check
American - check
Likeable - check

...throw in the fact that he has beaten (dominated) top tier talent recently and it is mind-boggling that he isn't more well known. Usually, the Gold Medal alone will make a fighter who turns professional one of the stars of the sport. He hasn't just gone pro, he has dominated some of the best in the world... And no one seems to care.

I realize that he doesn't have the tailor-made style for a huge draw, but there have been plenty of defensive-minded Olympic champions that became huge names.

I'm pretty much at a total loss as to the lack of promotion that Ward gets. Sergio Martinez is a certified star in comparison to Ward. The question is, do we blame Dan Goossen or is it just that the public hasn't embraced him for whatever reason? I feel like his accomplishments should be out there a little more than they currently are.
I disagree to a certain extent about Ward. I don't think he's entertaining enough to be a star. He doesn't have a fan friendly style. It seems as if he just wants to do just enough to win. We haven't seen him take chances. His fights aren't exactly crowd pleasing and his last fight against Abe was a snooze fest. Besides boxing purist, he isn't wowing many out there. He isn't the type of fighter that we will see in many Fight of the Year matches.

To become a star in boxing, I believe you have to bring some sort of entertainment to the ring. Some drama, something compelling in his matches. So far, Ward doesn't bring much of that. Sure, he has great resume, but that can only get you so far. When you lack excitement in the ring, it'll have to come from elsewhere. Unfortunately, his down to earth, soft spoken personality works against him in this area.

At the end of the day, boxing is an entertainment business. If you're not entertaining the masses, then you're ceiling isn't very high. To be fair, I don't think we've seen him in the ring with somebody that can push him to the limits and force him to take chances and do more than just get the W.
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:35 PM   #33
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I'm going to box my friend this summer. I am stronger and 10 inches taller but he might have speed on me. Neither of us have ever boxed before. Advice?
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:29 PM   #34
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Felix

Great comeback. Like a champ.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:45 PM   #35
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Good luck!
Specially with Zab lol
nah, I'm not counting him out but I don't think he can handle Kahn's speed, size, reach, workrate...

Common guys fill out your cards!!

at the end of the year the winner gets a e-high-five or something

Ha ha, I don't know why exactly, but I've always been a bit of a fan of Zab. Guy has so much talent it is sad he has been a mental midget when it comes to his super fights.
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:40 PM   #36
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Alexander vs. Matthyse tonight. Solid fight. Matthyse is dangerous. If Devon can hang with him, it should put him right back in the mix.
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Old 06-26-2011, 01:27 AM   #37
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Wow, what a bullshit decision again for Alexander. Some judge had it 96-93 for Devon..wtf. He should have 3 losses on his record now.
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Old 06-26-2011, 02:28 AM   #38
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Matthysse gets jobbed again

He has wins over Judah and Alexander in my book and is still undefeated. Devon got some old fashioned home cooking tonight.

And the WBC needs to stop with that silver, sapphire, cubic zirconia belt bullshit. Now we have to watch that dude who KO'ed a terrible Ray Austin get beaten like a drum in Germany against one of the Klits
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:43 AM   #39
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When mentioning good to great fighters that aren't nearly as big a star as they should be, doesn't Bernard Hopkins have to take the cake? Hes absolutely an all time great(Id probably have him top 25), is doing amazing and unprecedented things for his age, is probably the 2nd most dominant middleweight champ ever(or was), and yet hes never actually been a star other than to huge boxing fans.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:43 AM   #40
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Oh and Im really tired of Devon Alexander
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:39 AM   #41
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When mentioning good to great fighters that aren't nearly as big a star as they should be, doesn't Bernard Hopkins have to take the cake? Hes absolutely an all time great(Id probably have him top 25), is doing amazing and unprecedented things for his age, is probably the 2nd most dominant middleweight champ ever(or was), and yet hes never actually been a star other than to huge boxing fans.

Because his style of fighting doesn't appeal to masses. He's the Tim Duncan of boxing.
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:28 AM   #42
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What does everyone think of the fight on Saturday between Haye and Klitschko??

I either got Klitschko in 4 if not i think Haye can win on points...
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:40 AM   #43
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Haye to win on saturday.
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:53 AM   #44
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I know who Andre Ward is, but very little. I don't see how Boxing can compete with the way that the UFC markets and operates. Boxing needs a major overhaul. Someone like Zuffa needs to start their own promotion and get all (or most) the best fighters under one banner. Make these guys fight each other, and lets see who the best is. Win or lose, you put on a good fight, and you get another fight. I'm so tired of the way Boxing is ran. It's the same old 'dodge everyone that poses a real threat until I can get a big payday' bullshit. Honestly, I don't follow Boxing much anymore, so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:53 AM   #45
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Haye doesn't have a shot. It's all hype.
I give him props for taking away the belt from this talent-free giant but the others were one the lowest level possible.
They are not even good enough to be Klitschko's sparring partner. true story.

People say he's fast and can move around the ring blablabla but fact is, even Ruiz was able to land his jab so it can't be that hard. Expect a lot of rabbit punches for Saturday but it will not help.....

Yeah dude Heavy weight division was lame because that giant had the belt and everybody was scared to fight him.

Agreed man but i think if Klitschko doesnt knock him out Haye will win on points man due to the rabbit punches that ll get scored.
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