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Old 11-20-2012, 08:55 AM   #871
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Mayweather is apparently involved in a PED scandal.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-le...-mess-part-one

Very interesting article to read. you can also check out part 2

very long read, but this is the most interesting part

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On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.

On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.

As part of the settlement, the Mayweathers and Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”

turns out floyd might be the one using peds after all. and if you read the 2nd part of the article, golden boy tries to cover up every time one of their fighters tested positive.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:10 AM   #872
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i like broner, he really does seem like floyd mayweather jr @ 130

richard abril, yuriorkis gamboa, or move up to 140

He eats punches on his blocks where as Mayweather completely avoids them. Completely different style in that regard.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:19 AM   #873
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very long read, but this is the most interesting part



turns out floyd might be the one using peds after all. and if you read the 2nd part of the article, golden boy tries to cover up every time one of their fighters tested positive.

Its not even just about Floyd, but GBP as a whole and another dark look at the sport itself. It's just gets shadier and shadier.


But I do find it pretty funny that Floyd is the one who supposedly got caught. Out of all the talking he did to Manny. Wonder what the flomos think of this one...gonna put a major spin on it.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:37 AM   #874
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Its not even just about Floyd, but GBP as a whole and another dark look at the sport itself. It's just gets shadier and shadier.


But I do find it pretty funny that Floyd is the one who supposedly got caught. Out of all the talking he did to Manny. Wonder what the flomos think of this one...gonna put a major spin on it.
You don't have to put spin on it. It's a rumor.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:00 AM   #875
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Its not even just about Floyd, but GBP as a whole and another dark look at the sport itself. It's just gets shadier and shadier.


But I do find it pretty funny that Floyd is the one who supposedly got caught. Out of all the talking he did to Manny. Wonder what the flomos think of this one...gonna put a major spin on it.
The article says nothing about getting caught.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:06 PM   #876
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He eats punches on his blocks where as Mayweather completely avoids them. Completely different style in that regard.

That happens because he's way more active and initiates so much more than Mayweather. The style overall is very much similar. Broner's arms are short so he has to take to give. Broner also goes to the body more and takes more risk. Broner's defense isn't Floyd's, as Floyd may have the best winning defense ever in the sport. Floyd also has great accuracy - Broner too just not at the same level.

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Old 11-20-2012, 12:11 PM   #877
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The article says nothing about getting caught.

Lawyer's, settlement, recanting statements = caught.

If Floyd doesn't say anything else about the steroid thing when somebody brings it up I would have to believe the article. The only way you quiet that family down is thru the courts.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:13 PM   #878
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So Floyd says Manny is using, with no proof at all and everyone believes it.

An article comes out from a reputable site, written by a respectable journalist in Thomas Hauser, showing the dark, inner workings of Golden Boy and how they've handled their drug testing protocol, and everybody just looks the other way?

If you replaced Mayweather and Golden Boy with Pacquiao and Top Rank, yall would be all over this. "FLOYD WAS RIGHT" "LOOK IT'S PROOF MANNY IS USING" "BOB ARUM IS THE ANTICHRIST"!! Raaaaaage!!!
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:57 PM   #879
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well, top rank is guilty too in a different way..they try to skip the drug tests instead, but when their fighters are caught at least they dont try to hide it. look at chavez jr.


broner is like a more entertaining version of mayweather. floyd jr was actually more offensive-minded when he was at 130.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:51 AM   #880
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So Floyd says Manny is using, with no proof at all and everyone believes it.

An article comes out from a reputable site, written by a respectable journalist in Thomas Hauser, showing the dark, inner workings of Golden Boy and how they've handled their drug testing protocol, and everybody just looks the other way?

If you replaced Mayweather and Golden Boy with Pacquiao and Top Rank, yall would be all over this. "FLOYD WAS RIGHT" "LOOK IT'S PROOF MANNY IS USING" "BOB ARUM IS THE ANTICHRIST"!! Raaaaaage!!!


Exactly
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:04 PM   #881
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I'm kinda surprised that no one has mentioned Hector "Macho" Camacho being on life support after getting shot in the jaw last night. There was hope he would survive, but that pretty much got toned down today.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:10 PM   #882
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I'm kinda surprised that no one has mentioned Hector "Macho" Camacho being on life support after getting shot in the jaw last night. There was hope he would survive, but that pretty much got toned down today.

Yeah, just heard a little while ago. Looks like it was drug-related. The guy who was driving the car Macho was in had 10 bags of coke on him. Doesn't look good for a recovery, his mother has to make the decision of whether or not to keep him on life support...
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Camacho Sr. is now brain dead according to the latest news. He was a very entertaining boxer during his prime.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:49 AM   #884
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RIP Macho.

Never one of my favorite fighters, but that doesn't mean he didn't entertain me. More importantly, he has a family that loved and cared for him.

A true legend of the sport, not necessarily because of his ability as a boxer... but a legend nonetheless.
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Must watch fight from Saturday. Brian Viloria vs. Hernan Marquez. One of the best fights I've seen this year.

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