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Old 04-03-2013, 12:11 AM   #1126
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:07 PM   #1127
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Premiers tonight. The start of Showtime's dominance over HBO.

30 Days in May
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:54 AM   #1128
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Premiers tonight. The start of Showtime's dominance over HBO.

30 Days in May

First of all that 30 Days in May was horrible...were we really supposed to feel bad for Mayweather for getting locked up for 60 days?? lol

Showtime, because of Golden Boy, does have a better talent pool than HBO (3 potential PPV fighters by next year: Mayweather, Alvarez, Broner)
It is really dumb for fans to be taking sides in the hbo/top rank vs. showtime/golden boy bs. In the short term both promotional companies and networks are trying to make good entertaining fights but in the long term it sucks because of all of the good matchups that the fans will never get to see.

but they still have a lot going against them:

1. Budget: Showtime will have to increase its budget for boxing by a huge amount of money to take advantage of showcasing their talented fighters. Lets just say Broner fights 2 more times this year...obviously these are cards he would headline for showtime..so showtime is going to have to make much larger investment to have more dates...and with all of the talent that showtime has now, if they don't add a lot more dates, top fighters could get frustrated and leave golden boy when their contracts are up to try to go back to HBO.

2. Viewers: HBO simply has more viewers than Showtime, and its not very close. Of course, Showtime can make a dent in this and compete but for most boxers, HBO is still the best option to reach the most people.

3. Production: HBO has always put on a better show than showtime..better picture, better sound, better lighting, etc. Watching an HBO boxing event always looks better than a showtime event.

4. Al Haymon: The only think that I like about what happened is that HBO had the balls to basically tell Al Haymon to go f**k himself. Finally. Like I said, in the short term good fights are being made, but Al Haymon will use his power for horrible one sided matchups that nobody wants to see, yet get put on TV. Look at what he has done with Thurman and Broner, both young, talented, exciting fighters who have been put on TV to fight against bums...and theres many more examples than that.

Im looking forward to several of the upcoming Showtime cards...especially Alvarez-Trout (which deserves its own thread because of the corruption potential if Trout is winning close rounds) and Mathyse vs Peterson which will be awesome...also, the Mayweather Guerrero card is very strong...

But at time when the talent in boxing is as strong as its been in a long time, the fans are the ones who get screwed in these disputes and we shouldn't be rooting for a network or promotional company.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:34 PM   #1129
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First of all that 30 Days in May was horrible...were we really supposed to feel bad for Mayweather for getting locked up for 60 days?? lol

Showtime, because of Golden Boy, does have a better talent pool than HBO (3 potential PPV fighters by next year: Mayweather, Alvarez, Broner)
It is really dumb for fans to be taking sides in the hbo/top rank vs. showtime/golden boy bs. In the short term both promotional companies and networks are trying to make good entertaining fights but in the long term it sucks because of all of the good matchups that the fans will never get to see.

but they still have a lot going against them:

1. Budget: Showtime will have to increase its budget for boxing by a huge amount of money to take advantage of showcasing their talented fighters. Lets just say Broner fights 2 more times this year...obviously these are cards he would headline for showtime..so showtime is going to have to make much larger investment to have more dates...and with all of the talent that showtime has now, if they don't add a lot more dates, top fighters could get frustrated and leave golden boy when their contracts are up to try to go back to HBO.

2. Viewers: HBO simply has more viewers than Showtime, and its not very close. Of course, Showtime can make a dent in this and compete but for most boxers, HBO is still the best option to reach the most people.

3. Production: HBO has always put on a better show than showtime..better picture, better sound, better lighting, etc. Watching an HBO boxing event always looks better than a showtime event.

4. Al Haymon: The only think that I like about what happened is that HBO had the balls to basically tell Al Haymon to go f**k himself. Finally. Like I said, in the short term good fights are being made, but Al Haymon will use his power for horrible one sided matchups that nobody wants to see, yet get put on TV. Look at what he has done with Thurman and Broner, both young, talented, exciting fighters who have been put on TV to fight against bums...and theres many more examples than that.

Im looking forward to several of the upcoming Showtime cards...especially Alvarez-Trout (which deserves its own thread because of the corruption potential if Trout is winning close rounds) and Mathyse vs Peterson which will be awesome...also, the Mayweather Guerrero card is very strong...

But at time when the talent in boxing is as strong as its been in a long time, the fans are the ones who get screwed in these disputes and we shouldn't be rooting for a network or promotional company.
Showtime is owned by CBS, so the production will not be a problem.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:22 PM   #1130
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Showtime is owned by CBS, so the production will not be a problem.
CBS has owned Showtime for 8 years. If they haven't improved the picture by now, why would they in the near future?

The lack of viewers will hurt Showtime in the long run. People don't subscribe to Showtime because their movies suck, and having a few big name fighters isn't gonna make much of a difference.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:13 PM   #1131
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Only a couple of hours left until Donaire vs. Rigondeaux.

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Old 04-13-2013, 03:19 PM   #1132
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CBS has owned Showtime for 8 years. If they haven't improved the picture by now, why would they in the near future?

The lack of viewers will hurt Showtime in the long run. People don't subscribe to Showtime because their movies suck, and having a few big name fighters isn't gonna make much of a difference.
Because they never had Floyd Mayweather or Golden Boy Promotions on their side. This is big news, the biggest news for boxing in some time. As you can tell by all the news specials Showtime has been producing for Boxing recently.

Other than Paquiao/Mosley fighting on Showtime a few years ago, who has been the biggest name on that network? They have Mayweather and arguably to two biggest young stars in Canelo and Broner now.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:21 PM   #1133
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Only a couple of hours left until Donaire vs. Rigondeaux.


Can't wait!!
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:44 PM   #1134
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who you guys got?
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:51 PM   #1135
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who you guys got?

Donaire!

Had a dream he got ktfo tho.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:53 PM   #1136
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Donaire!

Had a dream he got ktfo tho.
I always have that feeling that my favorite fighter is gonna get knocked out within seconds.

Thinking of putting some money on donaire not sure though.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:00 PM   #1137
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Whent with 15 on donaire
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:30 PM   #1138
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Round 1: 10-9 Rigondeaux
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:33 PM   #1139
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Round 2: even 10-10

both fighters talked alot of trash but they have alot of respect for each other they dont wanna risk a stupid mistake
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:37 PM   #1140
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Round 3: Rigondeaux
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